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Old June 27th, 2012, 09:21 AM
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M416 trailer questions

So I'm looking to build my own trailer, replicating the m416. The only old trailers I have found are going for about 1200 bucks and are all rusty and old so I figured I have a welder, I'm going to build my own, but I have a few questions for people who own/rebuilt them.

1)I was looking for the axle dimensions on the web and know the spring center to center distance is 39" but couldn't find the hub to hub dimension, anyone got this?? I'm planning on getting Dexter 3500lb axles with electric brakes. (some of the custom build ones don't look like they even have brakes....)

2) I plan on including the following in my build: roof top tent, built in water tank, pull out table, mnt. bike mounts, drain spout, jerry can mounts. Other than these do people have any thoughts on what to add from their experiences, what worked best for them or what didnt work well???

Right now I'm doing the design work, I'll have some plans all finished shortly, I hope...

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Old June 27th, 2012, 09:28 AM
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You so need to go over to Expo portal for this. That's one of that forum's core competences.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 09:35 AM
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I believe you will be looking for an axle with a 70-72" hub to hub dimension but you will have a hard time if you are trying to match the Rover wheel pattern (unless you have adapters made). However, like Overlander said, Expo is a much better place to check out. There are literally hundreds (if not thousands) of threads from folks doing exactly what you plan to do.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 09:58 AM
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I had seen a few websites more tailored towards the trailers but this is a new one, I will be checking that out.

I was planning on getting the axle in a 5 on 5 and then fitting adapters for the 5 on 6.5 to fit landy wheels.

Thanks for the quick responses. Once I get some things drawn up ill try post them up on here
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Old June 27th, 2012, 04:42 PM
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I bought an M416 trailer many years ago. Cut off the original spindles which were part of the continuous axle and welded on a flange that was machined to accept the standard series Rover spindle. This allowed me to use Series Rover hubs and wheels. All this was done so the width was the same as the Series Rover. These trailers were designed to carry 500 pounds but I lost track of the number of times I hauled a cubic yard of 3/4 minus. This was a sweet setup and I would never sell mine as long as I have the Rover. Much lighter than a Sankey. I would still consider the M416.......it won't go down in price
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I've had a m416 for years. Great trailer loaded up a yard plus of soil mulch etc without complaint.
It's stock except for hub adapters from 5.5 to 4.5. Good for jeep wheels but they tend to stick out. Running 235/70-16 tires right now.
Yes it's a little smaller than a wide body Sankey but that hadn't been a problem yet.
One feature I really like is the E brake and I'd hate to lose that
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A friend of mine runs a land rover / range rover specialty repair shop. Based on his experience, they are capable of stopping anywhere, anytime, at any cost.

I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
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Old June 27th, 2012, 07:43 PM
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Same post you posted up in the other forum...same answers. Go to EXPO
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Old June 28th, 2012, 09:37 AM
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Thanks everyone, yea expo is a great resource with this topic. I'm surprised I had never found it before... Spent a few hours on there looking at what else I want to integrate into my design and I started throwing the main stuff on to a CAD program so I can make sure everything fits!

Not all to sure where I already posted this though 1971series88, I know sometimes my brain goes into autopilot but I cannot remember posting this twice.
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I notice you are in "Chicago", I am not far from you and have a M416. If you need any measurements just let me know.

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Thanks for the offer USADVENTURE, if I get stuck I may shoot you a PM and organize a time to take a look, I'm up in Deerfield, well I'm between there and valpo Indiana.
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Also look at the yahoo groups m416 forum
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Anytime, I am in Crystal Lake.
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Look at the Canadian m101a yahoo group, I remember a cad drawing posted there and dimensions.

M101a was kind of an updated improved version of the 416 and you can still good rust free ones.
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I had seen a few websites more tailored towards the trailers but this is a new one, I will be checking that out.

I was planning on getting the axle in a 5 on 5 and then fitting adapters for the 5 on 6.5 to fit landy wheels.

Thanks for the quick responses. Once I get some things drawn up ill try post them up on here
USLandy, did you ever find 5-6.5" adaptors for your project?

I found a sweet M416 at an estate sale, happened to spot it under a pile of old wood, made an offer an stole it. Couldn't get it out fast enough, even had the cheek to ask for a bill of sale.
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You arent allowed to do a post like that without pics at the very least, but you really need to start a threat in the projects section.

-Jeff
I was doing a follow up on USLandy's post as I didn't start the THREAD. As I did a search on this subject I didn't look to see what section it was in.
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