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Old November 15th, 2007, 03:48 PM
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LR HD Springs for a NAS 110?

I am considering replacing the stock springs on my NAS 110 with something that will provide better control and handling when the truck is loaded up for a trip. The problem is I have just barely 2 of clearance available (with roof basket off) to get the truck into the garage, and garaging the 110 is a priority for me. I have had good luck with OME springs-shocks on my Disco, but the additional lift (2) is too much for the 110 to make it safely into the garage. Additional lift and ground clearance is not a requirement. My110 has the stock bumper-brush-bar and no winch.



Has anyone installed the LR HD springs? If so, a couple of questions.



1) What was the change (increase) in overall height of the vehicle if any?

2) What was the end result in terms of handling with a lot of weight in truck?

3) How does it ride with just the driver and no cargo?

4) What brand-type of shock was installed with the HD springs?



Finally, are there good quality HD springs available besides the LR ones with limited or no net height gain/lift?



Any first hand experience would be appreciated.



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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:15 PM
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You might have to check with these guys!

http://www.raynor.com/



JK, I have the OME HD on mine but it definitely created quite a bit of lift. I don't have any experience with the LR HD springs. Hopefully someone else can shed some light on these for you.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:27 PM
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Andrew,

I wish the solution was a new taller garage door, it would mean I could get both the Disco with an SD rack and the 110 with the basket in. Unfortunately, I live a with a very very restrictive homeowners assoc. and they would not even consider such a modification.

Thanks, but I am still looking for 'non lift' HD springs.

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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:36 PM
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You can always put an Air Ride system into your 110 and then you can drop it down to enter the garage. I've had mine for a couple years without problems. Excellent on and off road performance.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 05:52 PM
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Maybe you could dig trenches for the tires! I understand, I was just making a crack. I don't know of any springs like what you are looking for. It sucks to have to do it but if you don't use the rack too frequently you could remove it to gain clearance. It is only 6 bolts and I am sure you could just replace them with a quick release design similar to hood pins so that you could pop it on and off in a couple minutes. Just a thought.
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Seriously, my air springs have 10" of travel. When I want to work underneath, just inflate the air springs - plenty of room. Off camber no problem. Additional cargo no problem. Towing no problem. Off road I can selectively connect front right to left and/or rear right to left so the wheel going up pushes air into the opposite side equalizing pressure. Nice when you are crawling up through a boulder field. Then if I want I can drop the whole vehicle down to wash it off.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:03 PM
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Chris where did you get your Air Ride System from? How much does it cost?
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:16 PM
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Chris where did you get your Air Ride System from? How much does it cost?
X2, this sounds intriguing!
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Old November 15th, 2007, 07:32 PM
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Rich- Just did LR HD springs all around with bilstein shocks on my 90. Notice huge diff. in ride quality but little to none on height. I park in my garage and can't tell I changed the suspension. Not sure if it makes a diff that I have a 90.
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Bought the basic kit from Air Ride Technologies. I was trying to duplicate a defender in UK that I had seen in LROI and LRW. Fabrication work was minor. Cost depending on the kit can get up there - certainly more than a set of springs. But now that it's on the 110, I can't see taking it off. Really no maintenance. Not for extreme offroading, but for me it works great. AND I have plenty of air for tires and tools. If anyone is interested, I can do photos.
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You can swap the rear springs for ones off of a 110 without the boge unit ie non-NAS rest of world non-county model. That should help a great deal. Also, add a front sway bar.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 08:54 PM
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Old November 16th, 2007, 10:52 AM
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Jonathan,

Thanks for the information, that's what I needed to know. I will now try to determine if the 110 HD springs are different (lift) than the 90. I am would assume that they are likely to be the same.

Again, thanks for the input.

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Air Ride Suspension

Here are the jpegs. Again the air springe have a 10" travel. Indepentantly controlled from the cab.
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R. Kurk I told you how to get what you want to happen done quite easily.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 03:55 PM
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Off topic ...

Sorry to hijack,

But Chris, your CrewCab rocks ! Always a fine example of good work.

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P.S. is that a Safety Device roll cage ?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 05:25 PM
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Thanks. Yes, it is a Safety Devices rollcage.
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Old November 16th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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Nice looking rig Chris! What year is it and did it have an auto originally?

Is this your setup?
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Old November 16th, 2007, 07:42 PM
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It started as my 94 D90, auto was put in when it was a 90. Salisbury rear with disc brakes, 4.6 V8 camed and chipped. 4.11 gearing. Suspension - my design and fab, but idea came from UK.
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