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Old April 1st, 2015, 08:25 PM
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Hi there! I am a new member to the forums. I have browsed in the past but have just recently started looking for a D90 so I figured it was time to join. I hope this is posted in the correct section of the forums please let me know if not and I will fix it.

I wanted to check with you guys and get some advice on what to look for in your first Defender. I have seen several comments detailing where to look for rust in common areas. I also have some concern about whether or not to only pursue a NAS example. I have seen the thread about DHS seizing illegally imported trucks and that is where my concerns originates. I am fine with buying a truck that needs work or is not in plush condition, as I would like to work on it and make it my own. I would really appreciate any helpful advice you guys have and look forward to being a part of this forum.

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Budget, intended use, and mechanical ability? Any previous Rovers or English vehicles?

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Budget, intended use, and mechanical ability? Any previous Rovers or English vehicles?

Welcome aboard, and enjoy the koolaid...
Thanks for your reply rovertrader. As for budget, I am hoping to stay somewhere around ~$25k. I would not be using the truck as a daily but for leisure and occasional, light off-roading. I consider my mechanical ability to be above average but also do not by any means consider myself a full blown mechanic. I have not owned a British vehicle thus far but I know from friends that they often enjoy and require a lot of attention. Thanks for your input!
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Welcome. Great trucks great people. For that price you probably won't get a Nas but there are a bunch of legal row trucks out there. Read the boards. Search is your friend but the folks here (usually) won't bite your head off for asking questions
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Welcome. Great trucks great people. For that price you probably won't get a Nas but there are a bunch of legal row trucks out there. Read the boards. Search is your friend but the folks here (usually) won't bite your head off for asking questions
Thanks Arcadeus! I will definitely do some more research on the boards.
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Welcome. Great trucks great people. For that price you probably won't get a Nas but there are a bunch of legal row trucks out there. Read the boards. Search is your friend but the folks here (usually) won't bite your head off for asking questions


X2 on what Mark said and I would also ad that you should try and attend some of the events coming up even if just for the day. That way you can check out all manner of trucks and people are usually willing to let you bum a ride which is a great way to dip your toes in the Rover pool.


Cheers, be patient and good luck with your search.


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X2 on what Mark said and I would also ad that you should try and attend some of the events coming up even if just for the day. That way you can check out all manner of trucks and people are usually willing to let you bum a ride which is a great way to dip your toes in the Rover pool.


Cheers, be patient and good luck with your search.


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Thanks for your comments Daddymow. I have been searching for events in the Atlanta area but haven't come across any yet. I will keep looking though. I went to Caffeine and Octane this past Sunday but unfortunately I didn't see any Defenders. Cheers!
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There is an event coming up in the Florida panhandle next weekend. There's a thread on here somewhere about it.
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Don't be afraid of RHD.

Make sure you are 100% okay with a 90 not only now, but down the road.

Look at (or have someone knowledgeable look at) any non-NAS rig you consider.

If you are okay with a diesel, go either 200Tdi or 300Tdi. Only buy a NA or Diesel Turbo if you plan to replace the engine with the 200 or 300.

The V8's are much quieter but it's not a good example of a V8. Either Ford 5.0 or 4.6 will help, but the Buick block is inherently weak.

Don't buy anything that is post-1990 & claims to be 'legally imported'. You will lose your arse.

Don't expect a reliable, easy to drive/maintain rig. They are a 'work in progress'.
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Don't be afraid of RHD.

Make sure you are 100% okay with a 90 not only now, but down the road.

Look at (or have someone knowledgeable look at) any non-NAS rig you consider.

If you are okay with a diesel, go either 200Tdi or 300Tdi. Only buy a NA or Diesel Turbo if you plan to replace the engine with the 200 or 300.

The V8's are much quieter but it's not a good example of a V8. Either Ford 5.0 or 4.6 will help, but the Buick block is inherently weak.

Don't buy anything that is post-1990 & claims to be 'legally imported'. You will lose your arse.

Don't expect a reliable, easy to drive/maintain rig. They are a 'work in progress'.
Paul nailed it...particularly with the RHD. Oddly I prefer it now...lots of room to stretch out (more footwell room), easy to parallel park, and totally freaks people out. If you have EZ-Pass and are ok with leaning over the passenger seat at drive-thru's RHD is a non-issue.
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There is an event coming up in the Florida panhandle next weekend. There's a thread on here somewhere about it.
Thanks a lot LostChord! I am from the panhandle and my folks live down there so I will look into this event.

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Don't be afraid of RHD.

Make sure you are 100% okay with a 90 not only now, but down the road.

Look at (or have someone knowledgeable look at) any non-NAS rig you consider.

If you are okay with a diesel, go either 200Tdi or 300Tdi. Only buy a NA or Diesel Turbo if you plan to replace the engine with the 200 or 300.

The V8's are much quieter but it's not a good example of a V8. Either Ford 5.0 or 4.6 will help, but the Buick block is inherently weak.

Don't buy anything that is post-1990 & claims to be 'legally imported'. You will lose your arse.

Don't expect a reliable, easy to drive/maintain rig. They are a 'work in progress'.
Thanks for your advice Paul K! This is very helpful. I am fairly certain I will be okay with the 90 as I have a roomier vehicle for my daily. I really appreciate the motor advice. Sounds like I may want to steer clear of the turbo if that is the case. Do you have a preference when it comes to the V8 vs the diesel examples? If so could would you mind elaborating a bit?

Lastly is there a reason the "legally imported" post 1990 examples are a recipe for disaster?

I have come to terms with the trucks needing care and work. Like most hobbies it sounds like it will be pricey but the trucks are awesome and I think its worth it.

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Paul nailed it...particularly with the RHD. Oddly I prefer it now...lots of room to stretch out (more footwell room), easy to parallel park, and totally freaks people out. If you have EZ-Pass and are ok with leaning over the passenger seat at drive-thru's RHD is a non-issue.
Thanks for your advice as well nathanwind. I hadn't considered RHD much because I wasn't sure how difficult it would be to adjust. Did you find it difficult at first or was it a fairly simple transition?

Thanks again for all the help guys! This seems like a great community and I look forward to being a part of it!
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Lastly is there a reason the "legally imported" post 1990 examples are a recipe for disaster?
Because they're not legally imported.

My truck is RHD and I love it.
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Because they're not legally imported. My truck is RHD and I love it.
X5 on RHD; learning curve isn't as steep as you think. Just think of all the times you were riding shotgun with someone who wasn't fit to drive and wished you had a steering wheel and a brake pedal... It becomes second nature within a few days as you adjust to it, certainly nothing to be afraid of
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X5 on RHD; learning curve isn't as steep as you think. Just think of all the times you were riding shotgun with someone who wasn't fit to drive and wished you had a steering wheel and a brake pedal... It becomes second nature within a few days as you adjust to it, certainly nothing to be afraid of
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When I lived in the Ulster before,I had RHD LR's as my normal transport and a LHD ex army 90. I used my 90 at the weekends and drove to work in my usual LR through the week...easy enough for sure..certainly wouldn't discount one if the price was favourable.



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Because they're not legally imported.

My truck is RHD and I love it.
Thanks sonoronos! I guess I was more so asking why they do not allow legal import of post-90's. I assume because during most of the 90's NAS examples were being produced?

I am definitely opening up to the idea of RHD based on the feedback I am getting.

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X5 on RHD; learning curve isn't as steep as you think. Just think of all the times you were riding shotgun with someone who wasn't fit to drive and wished you had a steering wheel and a brake pedal... It becomes second nature within a few days as you adjust to it, certainly nothing to be afraid of
Haha I know exactly what you are talking about NPT90. I have stomped that imaginary brake pedal several times. I guess I didn't think about that. I will definitely consider them as an option during my hunt.

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When I lived in the Ulster before,I had RHD LR's as my normal transport and a LHD ex army 90. I used my 90 at the weekends and drove to work in my usual LR through the week...easy enough for sure..certainly wouldn't discount one if the price was favourable.



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Thanks a lot Ohlins! It looks like there is some fantastic information in the link you sent. I will spend some time there. I am definitely going to keep RHD as an option and certainly if I find one for the right price. Appreciate the advice.
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Thanks for your advice as well nathanwind. I hadn't considered RHD much because I wasn't sure how difficult it would be to adjust. Did you find it difficult at first or was it a fairly simple transition?
My experience was 15-minutes behind the wheel to get the "hang" of it, and a day or so of driving around and you've got it mastered. The biggest obstacle will be when your wife continually walks to the wrong side of the truck and you have to ask "are you driving or am I?".



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Lastly is there a reason the "legally imported" post 1990 examples are a recipe for disaster?
For any non-NAS truck, it has to be 25-years or older to be eligible for import...anything younger/newer than 1990 at this point not 25+ years old.
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