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Old May 31st, 2013, 09:59 PM
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Looking for pictures under a 2 door 110

Specifically I'm interested in seeing how the tub mounts to the frame and how that differs from 4/5 door. So shots from the rear wheel well facing towards the opposite front wheel for example.

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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:03 PM
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The front of the tub mounts to the seat box. There are brackets on the outriggers that mount to the back of the front lip of the tub, and there are two support brackets further back. At the back, it bolts to the tabs on the crossmember.

Basically it is the same as a 109 but the brackets on the outriggers are welded parts of the outriggers on a 109 and separate on a 110.

In short, it is really simple. The chassis itself is the same.
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http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/...0pickup/11.jpg

Like that? I can take some more this weekend possibly if you want? That's just what was in the album.
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The trapezoid shaped things directly above the trailing arm front mount on the inside of the frame are the middle brackets I referred to earlier.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:28 PM
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These are the trapeziod things probably, towards the upper left of the image It is probably the same thing as 5 doors so might not help much. My dang 110 is still in the shop so I can't take pics right now. It's still probably not what you are after but I'll get a pic up soon of my 100" that I kinda modeled after the 110 where it meets the middle bulkhead.

Every rib that spans the tub has a little rubber pad and is attached to the frame at that spot. Some have the trapezoid things and some have other random blocks to reach the tub.
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Old May 31st, 2013, 10:32 PM
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Here is a shot looking forward from the right rear wheel. I put a piece of square tube across the outriggers that has tabs on it to catch the tub. It's not exactly like the 110, but it hits the same holes on the tub.
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The Jeff's for the win!

I honestly can't see anything in those first pictures. Maybe it's just me since I also don't seem to see half the detail some see in pictures people post here...

I took pictures of what I am seeing with a test mockup of the 109 tub on the 100 frame to highlight why I am asking. Ron you have covered all the obvious stuff, and the stuff that works. I'm looking for the things that don't look right. For example, the center body/setbox mounts from the 5 door look to need additional brackets to be used. And I have two ribs without support right now. It looks like one pair just needs to be raised and I need to make a really tall ones for the other.

Otherwise I'm happy with how it's looking. Ignore the fact I don't have brackets on the outriggers yet.

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The brackets to which you refer need spacers shown in the last two photos are for the seat belts. I don't think they are used on 3 door regular bodies. They are on the back side of these black brackets shown in this pic. I will get you a pic of how the belts are on a 110 regular tub tomorrow if I don't have to work.
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Nice job there. Only 17 brackets to mount the 3 door tub
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Nice job there. Only 17 brackets to mount the 3 door tub
There are 4 more. Two trapezoids and two other blocks not circled.
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Old June 1st, 2013, 01:09 AM
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Ok lets not get crazy here. In a effort to keep focus, I have done my own green rendition and annotated them with numbers to keep us on track.

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1. These are lower than the rest of the surface points which the tub braces rest on. Are they used or not?

2. These are missing. I had to add these to my trailer when I put a 109" tub on the D90 frame as well

3. These are about 3.25" forward of the tub face for me. In Brian's picture it looks like he has a bracket to accommodate this.

Other than wanting to make sure I have the tub placed properly I just want to see what it would look like with a 2 door 110 tub. Because my rear crossmember is not welded on yet I can't use it as a point of reference and Ron's paint marks he had from when he had the 5 door body on don't line up right now with my mockup. I will probably move on to my bulkhead work and get the whole body loosely fitted before committing to the rear crossmember position.
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Awesome. Do you have a bigger version?
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I pulled it from my 110 build thread. Don't know why it's so small.

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Old June 1st, 2013, 09:48 AM
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Thanks guys, that's helpful.

Given the pads it looks like those brackets over the crossmember are used. Maybe there is a difference in the tub ribs on the 110 because it's definitely too low on mine and you can see its lower than the rest of the mounts in that picture too.
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1. There are little brackets on top of the frame that take up the gap.

2. Are the trapezoids I keep talking about.

3. I am going to look in my garage, but I don't remember any brackets on this one in the 83.
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There are no brackets to the seat belt mounts on my 83 110 tub.
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Right you are. Shown here on Tom's

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1. There are little brackets on top of the frame that take up the gap.
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you are overthinking this. Just mount the tub like it would be on a 109. Four brackets at the front two bolts each (the ones on the outriggers) and the five two-hole brackets @ the rear cross. The two center brackets are there to re-inforce the seatbelt mountings that you don't have. (see kanedefers $15 special to see the seatbelt brackets, I bought them)

you can add the seatbelt brackets later (i did on my 109) but they are not tied to anything just bolted to the body.

the 5 pedestals that provide support to the pads under the floor crossmembers are helpful if you are carrying a 2500 pound payload, otherwise you won't need all 10. In other words the two pair that are lower at the front to accommodate the 5 door bed don't really matter, my 109 has been running without those forever. though not currently running now
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