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Old September 11th, 2014, 02:33 AM
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Hello,

I am looking for a diagram or picture(s) that show how all the hoses from the carburators on my '86 V8 are routed and connected. Where can I find such a resource please?
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Old September 11th, 2014, 11:13 AM
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Have you looked in the factory workshop manual? If not, Google it. They are available in a few places for download.
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I guess the one from the underside of the hood is gone?
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Sadly several variations. Even Europe pre EFi adopted some emission controls while other countries didn't. To give you an idea, the link below is scary.
Do you know the Country of original registration?

http://www.v8register.net/FilesV8/V8...2030.11.07.pdf
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Have you looked in the factory workshop manual? If not, Google it. They are available in a few places for download.
I did Google to no avail. I have the factory workshop manual and it doesn't show it either.

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I guess the one from the underside of the hood is gone?
If my truck ever had one, it's no longer there.

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Sadly several variations. Even Europe pre EFi adopted some emission controls while other countries didn't. To give you an idea, the link below is scary.
Do you know the Country of original registration?

http://www.v8register.net/FilesV8/V8...2030.11.07.pdf
Yes. The truck is a right hand drive UK model. It had lived all its life there, save for the past 2 years.

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http://www.landroverweb.com/Pdf-file...ion_manual.pdf

Page 54-62 might be helpful. The layout of teh manual and aplication (101FC) is goofy, but it should shed some light.

-Jeff
Thanks Jeff. I hadn't seen that particular manual. Looking through the pages you mention though, it doesn't have what I'm looking for.

------ Follow up post added September 11th, 2014 01:11 PM ------

I'll take some pictures of the engine bay and post them here, perhaps someone can spot what's missing or disconnected.
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Here are a couple of photos and a video, in hopes of someone spotting something unusual.

I've circled 2 obvious ports that are missing small hoses. Anyone know how those are connected?
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Hi Samer,

Do you have the parts manual for the early trucks? It's a must-have resource, and has some decent diagrams for all the fuel lines, carbs, and hoses.

Here's a photo of the engine bay in my UK spec '83 110. Everything here is exactly as shown in the parts manual. As has already been mentioned, there are different setups depending on year and the market the truck was made for. For what it's worth, I have a friend with a Swiss spec '85 110 and his carb and hose setup is exactly like mine.

Looking at your pictures, you're missing the vent hose that goes from the back of the engine to the air filter housing. In the engine photo, you can see the hose comes off the air filter housing and wraps underneath the air-inlet duct. You can just barely see the filter attached to this hose. The next photo shows the hose on the other side of the filter. It's impossible to get my camera back in there, but you can see the hose attaches to a crankcase breather at the back of the engine.

Your other photo shows a vacuum hose missing from the fuel trap. The hose goes from this trap to the back of the vacuum unit.

I also see that your right side exhaust manifold is equipped with the heat exchanger, but the associated hoses and valve have been removed from your inlet duct. This isn't a big deal, as you're in CA, so you really don't need it in your climate.

The ports on your carb air inlet elbows are also capped. On mine there are hoses that lead to a check valve on the air manifold assemblies. I don't know if your engine has them or not, as I can't see them in the photos.

Anyway, that's the stuff I can see by looking at your pictures. I hope this helps! Give a shout if you need any additional photos.

Cheers,

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Mike,

Thanks a lot for posting this along with the photos. I will take a look tomorrow and follow your directions.

I have a parts manual in PDF, that I downloaded from the internet. It's for Defenders from MY '87 on, which I believe is the one you are referring to.

Once again, thanks!
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Hello,

I am looking for a diagram or picture(s) that show how all the hoses from the carburators on my '86 V8 are routed and connected. Where can I find such a resource please?


Here's mine from Africa. It runs really well, but I can't say if it's all correct at this time.
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You're welcome. I hope it helps out!

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I have a parts manual in PDF, that I downloaded from the internet. It's for Defenders from MY '87 on, which I believe is the one you are referring to.
Nope. You need the earlier manual that covers from '83 through '86. I prefer actual books, so I picked up a copy of part # RTC9863CE from Amazon. It has proven to be worth it's weight in gold.


Andy - Whoa! That's an interesting setup! That's not factory, but I must admit, changing those air filters looks a heck of a lot easier than on the factory setup where you have to remove the whole filter housing.
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Mike. I hooked up 3 missing hoses, thanks to your directions. Unfortunately it didn't solve the issue, but that's more than likely a direct problem with one of the carbs.

Thank you nonetheless!

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You're welcome! I'm glad you were able to get the hoses routed correctly.

So, what's the issue you are having? Not that I'm some kind of carb guru (I'm most certainly not!), but my truck is setup correctly and runs well, so maybe I can help.

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The truck idles at 1,500 RPM when it's properly warmed up and at operating temperature. The idle will not drop down to its normal speed. Otherwise it runs just fine on the streets and the highway. I can easily do 80mph all day with it.

The dash pot in the left carb (looking from the front of the truck) always needs to be topped with oil, unlike the one on the right. I was told that the carbs look untouched since new, and need rebuilding.
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Hmm...well, if the carbs have never been touched since new, then then they probably should be rebuilt and adjusted. You folks are pretty car-crazy in CA, so I would think you should be able to find a British car shop that works on old Jags, TR8s, MGB V8s, and the like. They should be able to refurbish and adjust them without a problem.

The dash pot that keeps draining most likely needs a new O-ring on the needle adjusting screw.

The following website is pretty handy to learn how the carbs work, and how to take them apart. It's geared toward the TR6, but it's the same CD175 carbs found in our trucks. Although I still have no desire to take my carbs apart, they are a lot less mysterious to me having read through this.

http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/techn...bsI/CarbsI.htm
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I've found a few Land Rover shops that can work on the carbs, I just can't bring myself to spend the $500 to $600 it will take to have them rebuilt and adjusted, as I'm planning to do a swap to a 3.9L EFI engine, sometime down the road.

I will look at the link you sent, and see if I can learn anything.
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