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No, this is not a Mud-Pit thread about Neil's club escapades.


I'm curious if anyone here has had any success using Liquid Moly as a diesel additive?
I've heard people swear by it.
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Old January 20th, 2015, 05:40 PM
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It's very effective at removiing deposits from your bank account.
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Interested if it stops the damn gelling(not the type Neil wears at the club) I'm getting, I'll be happy.
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Interested if it stops the damn gelling(not the type Neil wears at the club), I'm getting, I'll be happy.
Jet fuel is very similar to diesel. Jet A fuel is usually treated with Prist to avoid gelling. http://www.avlab.com/ProductDetails....Code=d-f190-55
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Jet fuel is very similar to diesel. Jet A fuel is usually treated with Prist to avoid gelling. http://www.avlab.com/ProductDetails....Code=d-f190-55
Anything smaller than a 55 gal drum??
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I use Power Service. Grey bottle in summer and white in winter. There is a noticeable performance change with the grey bottle. A good idea especially in the USA where the lubricity standards and enforcement are a bit light.
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It's very effective at removiing deposits from your bank account.
I know, right!?! stuff is spendy


I've been using basic Cetane boost that you find at NAPA or Autozone for better starts in 0-25 degree weather, but somehow Amazon (those smart f*ckers) knew I would want some Liquid Moly and it was $10 for a 12oz can (or something like that) I was placing an order for a bunch of tool organizers and figured what the heck. Kinda like when you buy that pack of gum while waiting in the checkout line at the grocery store.


Haven't tried Liquid Moly, but wondering what to expect.
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Interested if it stops the damn gelling(not the type Neil wears at the club) I'm getting, I'll be happy.
Add Kerosene.
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Anything smaller than a 55 gal drum??
Yup.

DICE products prevent undissolved water molecules from freezing in jet fuel, which would result in blockage of fuel lines and possibly engine failure. DICE is sold in 55 gallon drums, 5 gallon pails, totes, bulk or in 24/20 oz. cans. Meets U.S. Military specifications MIL-DTL-85470B and ASTM STANDARD D4171. Pure DIETHYLENE GLYCOL MONOMETHYL ETHER, "carbitol". DICE Flash 190 FSII is the identical chemical formulation utilized by the United States Air Force turbine fleet. This chemical replaces ethylene glycol monomethyl ether as a less toxic and non-hazardous fuel system icing inhibitor. Comparable to Prist.
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How cold are we talking about? 'Been running my 200tdi in -20/-25 deg with jet A1 (kerosene) for two years now without any problems. I just add a pint of ATF before filling as a lubricant. Little drop in power but bearly noticeable (maybe it's just me.).
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How cold are we talking about? 'Been running my 200tdi in -20/-25 deg with jet A1 (kerosene) for two years now without any problems. I just add a pint of ATF before filling as a lubricant. Little drop in power but bearly noticeable (maybe it's just me.).
I don't have the same temperatures here,in the Pyrénées,but what I do is add is about 500mls of cheap 2 stroke oil to each fuel fill for extra lube. (I change my my 3 filters every 5000kms) ATF sounds a good hint also,thanks.






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ATF in a modern engine is not the best idea. There are additives that won't burn and can leave deposits on the injectors.
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I'm curious if anyone here has had any success using Liquid Moly as a diesel additive?
I've heard people swear by it.
I have used the Liqui-Moly ATF1800 when we did the trans fluid change in my Audi...it is definitely quality stuff, right up there with the Audi genuine fluid (and much less in price).

While I haven't used their diesel additive per se, I have used the XPD Opti-Lube with GREAT success. I'm not much of an "additive" guy, but 8oz of this in each tank made things noticeably quieter, improved fuel economy by 1-1.5mpg, and keeps things from gelling:
http://opti-lube.com/xpd-diesel-fuel...r-product.html
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i am lost as to why adding molybdenum disulfide to fuel is considered a good idea. the only purpose of moly in an engine is as a dry lubricant.

in fuel, it wouldn't burn and it would accumulate causing blockages

am i missing something?
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am i missing something?
LOL.... I'm pretty sure Jackie is referring to the brand "Liqui-Moly".... They make all sorts of products, including diesel fuel conditioner.

http://www.liqui-moly.us/liquimoly/p...cument&land=US
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i am lost as to why adding molybdenum disulfide to fuel is considered a good idea. the only purpose of moly in an engine is as a dry lubricant.

in fuel, it wouldn't burn and it would accumulate causing blockages

am i missing something?
Simmer down Poindexter ...we're talking about a product manufacturer here:
http://www.liqui-moly.us/liquimoly/p...cument&land=US
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LOL.... I'm pretty sure Jackie is referring to the brand "Liqui-Moly".... They make all sorts of products, including diesel fuel conditioner.

http://www.liqui-moly.us/liquimoly/p...cument&land=US
oh! hahah...well, that is embarassing
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I use this in summer: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/ and this in winter: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/

Available almost everywhere. Cost is around 5 cents per gallon of diesel.
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I use this in summer: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/ and this in winter: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/

Available almost everywhere. Cost is around 5 cents per gallon of diesel.

that's the stuff I typically use in the winter months. cheap and available everywhere.
I just thought I'd try something different.
I'm reading good reviews on it but it's hard to rely on stuff you read on Amazon.


(and yes, I probably should have specified the product as "LiquiMoly"....the German made lubricant/Tx)
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I use this in summer: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/ and this in winter: http://powerservice.com/psp_product/...-cetane-boost/

Available almost everywhere. Cost is around 5 cents per gallon of diesel.
I have used this for years, effective, inexpensive and I notice slightly better power (especially with the variation in diesel fuel from location to location). Almost always pour some in when filling the tank, when I was driving my 2.5NA this helped with some of the white smoke at startup and seems to improve cranking as well (especially in winter).
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