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Old May 28th, 2016, 08:04 AM
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Legality of tire on hood

Wanted to know if there is any fodder for good argument to keep my tire on hood . Most forum end up " check you local authority " but in my case they ( local brain trust aka authority ) have a hard time tying their shoes , and if anything is different than joe bobs f150 then it cant be all - that good .
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Old May 28th, 2016, 08:14 AM
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The first time I had my 110 inspected....the was a trooper testing a tech to do inspections in the next bay. When they lowered the car down, the trooper asked the tech why the car failed....and he had no clue. Trooper advised that a hood scoop cannot be more than 3 inches high....in the Commonwealth of VA. Needless to say I thought all was lost as my tire was mounted on the hood. After I pasted the inspection....to my surprise I ask the trooper why my tire didn't cause my truck to fail. He advised that the hood mounted tire was how the truck came from the factory...there fore it was stock and not a mod.......
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Old May 31st, 2016, 08:02 AM
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It's definitely a grey area depending on where you live. I've had a hood mounded spare registered and inspected in nj and ny. If I can get it done there with no questions asked Pennsytuckey shouldn't be an issue


Also just tell them it came like that, it's what I say when I get pulled over for people in the back of the truxk with no belts or seats...
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Old May 31st, 2016, 09:05 AM
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Ive had many police, sherriff and highway patrol see my hood mount tire upclose and not say a thing. dont give it any thought.
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Old May 31st, 2016, 09:12 AM
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He advised that the hood mounted tire was how the truck came from the factory...there fore it was stock and not a mod.......
Hope this helps.
Headlight guards also came stock from the factory but they are now illegal in Virginia.
I've only been warned; no tickets.


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Old May 31st, 2016, 09:17 AM
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When I got my 109 inspected years ago, the inspector failed it because there was not enough brake lining on the shoes. I went home and brought back a new set of shoes so he could compare.
When he saw they were Genuine shoes, he tried to fail it saying I needed to take the spare off the hood.
After explaining that I worked at the dealership a decade earlier.
Explaining that the stock location for the spare was on the hood and showing him the dished hood to accommodate the spare, he let it pass.
My next request would have been a call to the state police which was not necessary in this case.

If you think it's an issue, why not remove the spare, get the vehicle inspected, and bolt the spare back on afterwards?
There is no law against taking the wheel off the hood to "do some work".
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When I got my 109 inspected years ago, the inspector failed it because there was not enough brake lining on the shoes. I went home and brought back a new set of shoes so he could compare.
When he saw they were Genuine shoes, he tried to fail it saying I needed to take the spare off the hood.
After explaining that I worked at the dealership a decade earlier.
Explaining that the stock location for the spare was on the hood and showing him the dished hood to accommodate the spare, he let it pass.
My next request would have been a call to the state police which was not necessary in this case.

If you think it's an issue, why not remove the spare, get the vehicle inspected, and bolt the spare back on afterwards?
There is no law against taking the wheel off the hood to "do some work".
im a Va state inspector, and Rob you're correct, also there is no mention of having to have a spare tire in the va state inspection regulations book.
many more regulations than you ca shake a stick at.
no reverse light needed if the vehicle did not come equipped with it, even new 2016.
2/32nds of brake material minimum same with tires... no retreads on cars and trucks but allowed on rear axles of commercial vehicles to include school buses.
just in case you wanna kill a couple of hrs reading rules and regulations in va safety (lol) program

Vol. 28 Iss. 24 (Final Regulation) 19VAC30-70, Motor Vehicle Safety Inspection Rules And Regulations July 30, 2012
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Headlight guards also came stock from the factory but they are now illegal in Virginia.
I've only been warned; no tickets.


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I remember when this kicked in over a decade ago. Inspector told me it was considered an "obstruction". He removed them for me, then told me I could put them on when I got home, but I may get cited for it, so they've stayed off. At least it's not as bad as MD...


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It was mentioned the first time I got a Tithonus inspected here in Pennsylvania. The tech ended up passing it due to the height of the top of the tire not being more than three inches above the bottom of the windshield.
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I never thought I would see the day that other states are more hostile to Defenders than California. All we care about is the smog pollution. No "safety" inspection required.
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Headlight guards also came stock from the factory but they are now illegal in Virginia.
I've only been warned; no tickets.


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As far as I know those were a dealer add-on in most cases. They are also made removable with those thumb screws.
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the regulations of course and needless to say vary in every state, such as maryland you only get inspected once in the lifetime of the current owner... that is I can own it for ten yrs or ten days and if not inspected i don't get a title. as soon as I inspect, I get a title.
as soon as I sell it, the new owner re inspects.

of course it varies on the person be mechanic or state police officer performing the inspection and how he/she reads, interprets and acts on what the manual says. thus it is objective. here in va you don't need a muffler to pass state inspection but you will get pulled over and cited by police for not having one, you're allowed flex pipe and pipe repairs but no repairs on muffler.

same goes with window tint, I cannot enforce and fail you for it but you can get pulled over and cited. here is the kicker.... no stickers are allowed on the windshield or front windows unless they are official such as dod and the like.

in maryland and dc you cannot have window tint at time of inspection, must have factory or oem exhaust and you cannot use flex pipe.

in va and md private certified facilities and inspectors will inspect your vehicle, you meet the inspector (here is where the objective personality comes in play) I have seen it many times, if the inspector likes you or your car you're in the game he doesn't you are fudged... we could argue what is right or wrong about this scenario but in the end its your time which is being wasted.

call state police and complaint, set your self to deeper scrutiny by having and official inspect your car to verify dispute, or simply find a station that is less objective and willing to lick and stick.

in dc it is the police whom inspect your jalopy and decision to pass or fail is final.. still open to objectivity, you don't meet the official (to guard their safety) and that is it .

you get my drift?....
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DC has no safety inspection anymore. Only for Taxicabs and the like. Tailpipe emissions for non OBDII vehicles and gas cap sniff, OBDII check for newer stuff. That's it.
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call state police and complaint, set your self to deeper scrutiny by having and official inspect your car to verify dispute, or simply find a station that is less objective and willing to lick and stick.

I have a guy who is very compliant.

Last year I made the mistake of going to a new shop for an inspection because of time issues.
They flagged me immediately because I didnt have my Hella covers on and I had visible rub spots on my radius arms....
I stopped the inspection and went back to my old place.

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As far as I know those were a dealer add-on in most cases. They are also made removable with those thumb screws.
yeah, you're probably right on the headlight guards---but who wants to take them off all the time??

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It's amazing what can fail you.

My 02 RR passed everything in the inspection until the inspector went to do the paperwork. The lighting behind the odometer was burnt out making it unreadable. Couldn't get the mileage. Fail.
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Thanks guys you rock ! Plus ( with less logic applied ) if they don't like old rovers with their funny little bits they could kiss my muffler .
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DC has no safety inspection anymore. Only for Taxicabs and the like. Tailpipe emissions for non OBDII vehicles and gas cap sniff, OBDII check for newer stuff. That's it.
nice, good info to know... I just renewed my licenses and altho we spoke of the dc emissions test, we did not go in details this time.
I learned about dc in past classes and some time in a past life I was md inspector. thus quoted
form past experiences...

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