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Old July 11th, 2011, 03:06 PM
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I know there have been many discussions on the LED conversion subject. In a nutshell, the choices come down to replacing the existing 12v bulbs with LED lamps ala Superbright LEDs (or similar) or purchasing a whole new NAS LED light such as ECR and Safari Dust offer(ed). Problem with the first is that you don't get the same light pattern as the latter and the problem is the latter is so damn expensive ( $75 +/-). Now I have looked at sites selling these in the UK and when the cost of shipping is added they still are pretty expensive. Compare this to a US Grote or Trucklite 4" LED at under $25. Problem is that the NAS light plinth is 95mm or about 3 3/4". So I wonder how hard would it be to make a light plinth for a 4" standard US light? Anyone interested or have some ideas? Since I don't have any experience with plastic manufacturing, I had considered an aluminum plinth. The problem here is that unless it could be made inexpensively, it wouldn't offset the $50 difference between the 95mm light and the 4" light.
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Old July 12th, 2011, 10:33 AM
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So I guess the question becomes does the price of the plinth offset the savings of the cheaper lights?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 11:17 AM
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I like the idea of Aluminum plinths. The plastic looks like crap after a few summers.
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Kevin, would you be putting the NAS lamps (or 4" US lamps) in the ROW locations ?
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Old July 12th, 2011, 12:36 PM
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You could get a 4'' hlie saw and cut the hole and insert the light
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Old July 12th, 2011, 01:17 PM
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I like the idea of aluminum as well. The big benefit , imho the big advantage is a ready and inexpensive replacement for the lights. I have seen them for around $13 ea.

As for location, that would be entirely up to the owner. They would only be 1/4" larger.

Yeah, I thought about a flush mount, but I couldn't bring myself to come to terms with cutting those holes
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Hi Kevin,

Okay, clear. Thanks.

Well, that being said, second Nick's support of the aluminum plinth idea and think it would be very clever to be able to use commonly available LED lamps.

For "around $13 ea.," are those the Park/Stop lamps or the "marker" ones ?

By the way, I have seen a few photos of the NAS-size lamps installed in the ROW locations and the term mentioned was "funky," but that does not mean I've completely given up on the idea and think you are really on to something with this one. Don't want to cut big holes for a flush mount either
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Okay. Let me try making a protype.
If it works out and there's enough interest maybe we can do a production run.
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Not to go off on a contrary path, but I kind of like the idea of flush mounting. LR lights are very easy to break. I get it doesn't look original, but if you really want LED's, it kills two birds -- cheaper lights, and no need for light guards.
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Tony, I wouldnt be opposed to that either. That still leave the size difference to contend with though.

Kevin, My truck and some of my wallet would gladly be a guinea pig for this.
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Would also like to have flush mounted lamps, but just don't like the idea of cutting those big holes... The LED lamps might be a bit tougher, too, hopefully, and a whole lot brighter.
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I understand the advantage of a flush mouted light, but I think it also poses some problems. For one, depending on where they are mounted, there could be clearance issues. And they obviously won't look anything like the original. An other thing, most of the flush 4" light holders are pretty cheesey.
As for concern over breakage, if the plinth is aluminum and has a rim similar to the oem plinths combined with the added toughness of the LED lens, I don't think it will be a problem even without light guards.
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Okay, I ordered some aluminum stock and I'll see how it works.
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most groovy !
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A start;
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Nice !
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Here is a protype with the Grote 4" Led with the stock plastic 95mm for comparison;
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Im assuming you'll have to trim your rear cappings?
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I really dig these. The plastic just looks fragile next to the metal.
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Im assuming you'll have to trim your rear cappings?
No trimming Josh, I would back cut the aluminum mount for clearance.
I am going to make a set for myself, if there is enough interest, I'll source out a shop with a 3 axis cnc.
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