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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:00 AM
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LED front lights not working

Just bought an LED front upgrade set to replace the factory NAS lights on my 97 D90. These were purchased from Rovers North along with the adjustable relay switch they said was needed. I have installed the new relay and it works fine with the stock lights but the front LED upgraded lights will not light up in any condition with both the stock relay or the new relay I just got from Rovers North. Any input would be appreciated.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:49 AM
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Swap them to the back and see if they work there. Perhaps they are faulty. Do your old ones work? Have you checked fuses.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 08:56 AM
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You need to install some resistors up front. I believe if you had searched "led front lights not working" there were a few threads where this was discussed. The relay should be all that you'll need to replace if you only do LEDs in the rear, but if you do the LEDs in the front as well, resistors are commonly needed.
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Old July 14th, 2013, 01:37 PM
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I am only doing the front as of now but since you mentioned it. I should probably just do the rears at the same time and make them all LED. The relay I installed that came with the LED front markers for the front works fine with the factory OEM lights front and back. The LED's do not light up at all regardless of how I swap them on the front.

Can someone point me in right direction on getting the best and correct resistors needed? Are these a simple plug and play as well?

Also, are the LED rear upgrade a drop in and where is the best place to get the complete rear set?
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I am only doing the front as of now but since you mentioned it. I should probably just do the rears at the same time and make them all LED. The relay I installed that came with the LED front markers for the front works fine with the factory OEM lights front and back. The LED's do not light up at all regardless of how I swap them on the front.

Can someone point me in right direction on getting the best and correct resistors needed? Are these a simple plug and play as well?

Also, are the LED rear upgrade a drop in and where is the best place to get the complete rear set?
Call RN ... they should be able to advise you on the setup of the products purchased.

Don't assume you need resistors ... if you have the correct relay they should not be required.
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Old July 18th, 2013, 10:14 PM
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Issue now resolved

Just an update for everyone following this thread. I ended up calling RN and they said that a batch of the lights had the wires installed incorrectly (apparently all 4 of mine were affected). Les walked me through the steps to swap the wires back to the right sides and they now work great. It did take some time and for those doing this upgrade it will take some time and patience. Thanks, for the pointers.

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Update, apparently almost all of the directional and marker led lights Wipac made are wired backwards. My lights had a manufacture date of two weeks ago on the box so they have not resolved the problem.

Huge pain as I wasted time figuring it out myself.

For a small amount more I would recommend the bolt on bits kit.
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Fronts...check....rear's a nightmare

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Update, apparently almost all of the directional and marker led lights Wipac made are wired backwards. My lights had a manufacture date of two weeks ago on the box so they have not resolved the problem.

Huge pain as I wasted time figuring it out myself.

For a small amount more I would recommend the bolt on bits kit.

I was able to do the front LEDs' and get them working with the proper relay that I picked up from rovers north.

I then decided to get the set of 5 rear LED lights and upgrade the rear lights to LED's as well. I matched up the colors as they should be and installed the LED's and they are not working either. Here is what is happening:
Brake lights: light up but will not go brighter when the brakes are used but will turn on when the headlights are on.
Turn Signals: Will work but then they activate both the left and right side at the same time when used (this will obviously cause accidents).
Backup light (one): Will not light up at all under any circumstance I have found

This is a 97 NAS D90.

Any help would be appreciated. I spent no less than 6 hours fussing with them. Do I need to swap the wires (basically backwards) in order to get these working as well?
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Old August 29th, 2013, 07:34 AM
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I have the same set up.

When I installed the fronts I had one of the same problems you mentioned (all lights flashing when using blinker).

Simple fix was installing resistors on front blinkers.

Resistors are cheap but may be hard to find locally (though motorcycle shops may have them). Easy enough to find online.

As for other issues - no clue - though I had some serious harness issues that made all my rear lights bonkers which required an entirely new harness from the engine compartment.

Hope that helps.

------ Follow up post added August 29th, 2013 07:44 AM ------

Actually - I do have a clue on the other issues.

I initially - and at the time I thought accidentally but maybe not after hearing about the wires being screwed up from manufacturer - wired my tail lights wrong (similar issue to yours). Just swapped the wires and all was good.

In order to determine that I ended up removing the lights and testing them directly to to the battery to see what wire did what.

As for the back-up light - make sure you have power/ground on the line - get a test light and test all the wires.

Bad ground could be problem - you may have to run a new ground (easy). Sometimes messing around back there is enough to do some unseen (but not major) damage - again, referencing my bad harness - a tug on the wire here and a twist here could aggregate something on it's way out.

Again, hope that helps.
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