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Old November 24th, 2004, 06:18 PM
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Question Leaks - D90 Wagon

Searched re leaks - did not find much.

Just got in from a pouring rain - I mean really pouring.

I replaced the vent seals and adjusted the vent handles so no leaks there.

However, water is geting in at the base of my doors - my new carpet sections are getting wet! :o

Further, water leaked in behind the seats at the seat belt area(s). on one side (driver) in the rear the carpet (very corners) is wet at the front and rear jump seats. Water leaking in at slide window and running down channel?

I have already bought new bottom seals for the doors - pending install - but has anyone run into these leaks?

Should I expect some of them :o

Any experiences / corrections appreciated

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Old November 24th, 2004, 07:43 PM
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Old November 24th, 2004, 07:57 PM
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Leaks are sort of normal, but that does sound excessive. I get some from my sunroof, which probably just needs to be cleaned off a bit, and then I'm thinking from the roll bar on the drivers side, as occasionally water runs down the door from behind the headliner... I'll get to it, some day ;-)
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Old November 24th, 2004, 08:45 PM
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Mine leaks constantly too. Oddly enough, the sunroof on mine appears to have a different curve to it than the top. Wierd.

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Old November 24th, 2004, 08:49 PM
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Old November 25th, 2004, 02:33 AM
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I don't know about the door leaks. However, in the rainy season, it seems water drips in every time I open the door, so maybe that why your carpet is getting wet.

I get the seat belt leak too - very annoying. It appears water leaks in, and ends up dripping down off the bolt immediately above the rolled-up, retracted belt. This ends up soaking the belt. I got the wet rear carpet as well.

I think all of this comes from leaks at the bottom of the back side windows. I haven't completely diagnosed it, which I think will involve removing the liner in the back, which requires removing the seats.

Yea, you're not going to get much sympathy from ST owners. But they don't have to worry about carpeting getting moldy, either.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 08:28 PM
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If you inbox can handle it, I can send you a 4.1 meg water infiltration hadbook which is unconveniently written in German. However, it has lots of excellent explanatory diagrams to help eliminate water intrusion into the defender. Just let me know if you want it.
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Old November 27th, 2004, 09:59 PM
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would you mind sending that my way also???
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Old November 28th, 2004, 07:06 PM
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too easy. Tonight or tomorrow depending on when I unpack the computer with the file.
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Old November 29th, 2004, 03:28 AM
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If you would be so kind, please send it my way as well, at your convenience. 'guess its time to see how much of that 2 years of high school German I've forgotten.
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I'd love to see that as well. Altavista babelfish will help translate...
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Old November 29th, 2004, 09:32 AM
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Jim, Can you send that my way as well?

eric dot siepmann at gmail dot com?

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Old November 29th, 2004, 11:41 AM
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Jim, another if you will - jmccoy@agwatertechnologies.com
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Old November 29th, 2004, 01:59 PM
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Ok, I sent an inbox bomb to all who requested it.

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Old November 29th, 2004, 02:21 PM
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Ok, like Brian said, us ST guys don't want to hear any complaints about leaks!
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Old November 29th, 2004, 10:47 PM
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Yes, Jim Please send to me as well!

I have traced some leaks down by using 1- the "flashlight in the dark" method and 2- the trusty old water hose

It seems , though I had thought the rear leaks might be at the sliders, it is actually the seal where the top cap meets the body (below the windows). While no light shows (1), water does dribble into the interior in several places if you keep it running on the side area for a bit and watch with a flashlight very closely.

Also I noticed gaps on the roof at the seams which I feel may be allowing some leaks as well possibly dripping onto the headliner and running down.

I used some white silicone to seal the roof seams especially on the arched area above where to roll bolts in.
NOTE: By using masking tape to control the application area I was able to seal the seams without the mess. Nice clean caulk only inside the seams.

To avoid removing the top, at least for now, I intend to use the same method to control the application of butyl rubber sealer inside the roof cap/body seams as well.

I believe the door leaks will be corrected by adjusting the doors and replacing the bottom door seals but I will post upon completion of same.

Thanks for the replys!
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Old November 29th, 2004, 11:29 PM
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Jim,

Please send it my way as well.

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Old November 30th, 2004, 11:44 AM
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Thanks Jim for the "book" - if I could just read German However, "a picture is worth a thousand words" . .

These are the areas I had already addressed first (images from manual attached)

But it seems that it might be better to just seal the entire area where the cap meets the lower body. I would rather change the seal to new but, again, will prob just seal with Butyl for now. It is leaking at points at the front and rear of the cap for sure. Seal prob dry and brittle re age.
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