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Old July 22nd, 2008, 10:40 AM
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Late td5 dash wiring

I'm going to install an '02+ MY dash in the 110. I'm trying to determine the best way to integrate the new center dash switches into the original wiring scheme. For anyone who has done this, did you install a td5 bulkhead loom or splice in connectors for the new style switches/relays? Any advice is much appreciated.



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Old July 22nd, 2008, 11:22 AM
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Its next to impossible to do the Td5 loom as the wiring for the rear wiper and such is very different. We use the factory wiring and make the needed changes to suit the new style dash. Here is an example in a D90.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/159.html
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 11:58 AM
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Thanks Fidel. My configuration is a pickup so there is no rear wiper, but I know the Td5 loom has a lot of stuff I won't need. I guess what I really am trying to find is a source for the connectors to fit the back of the switches.
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Old July 22nd, 2008, 02:21 PM
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OK, I've done a bit more homework and I think what I need are Tyco amp multilocks connectors
P/N 347477-1 and 347477-4 and whatever fits the hazard switch. Anyone have a source?
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 04:33 PM
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The Hazzard switch is the problem. The other plugs I got from EE. I am looking into getting the Hazzard plug and will let you know. THen The questsion will be how to wire it.... I'm sure it can be done but I am not sure how to yet...
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Old July 23rd, 2008, 05:05 PM
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OK, I've done a bit more homework and I think what I need are Tyco amp multilocks connectors
P/N 347477-1 and 347477-4 and whatever fits the hazard switch. Anyone have a source?
If you need the Tyco connectors, you might be able to order them through a place like Allied Electronics or Newark. Neither one shows those PN's as stock, but I buy a lot of other Tyco connectors from them so they may be able to special order what you need.

www.alliedelec.com
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The company that makes the Hazzard plug is Sumitomo Wiring Systems.. Part # F(6090-1220). Anyone I spoke with, you need to by a bag of about 10000 of them. LEt me know if you can find them in smaller numbers.
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Its next to impossible to do the Td5 loom as the wiring for the rear wiper and such is very different. We use the factory wiring and make the needed changes to suit the new style dash. Here is an example in a D90.
http://www.eastcoastrover.com/159.html
Are you cutting the pertinent parts of the TD5 loom out and rewiring?? How did you do it in the project you listed?

Thanks for any advice.
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Some good info here:

http://www.reedx.net/landrover/mods/2002dash/index.htm
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Are you cutting the pertinent parts of the TD5 loom out and rewiring?? How did you do it in the project you listed?

Thanks for any advice.
We just use the connectors, not a cut up Td5 harness.
The Td5 harness runs things differently so not all the switch wiring crosses over. For example the rear wiper on a NAS 110/90 won't park if you use the Td5 wiring as shown in that web page, so you have to add a relay.
What that pages shows you is how a Td5 set up works and what the factory wiring is. That helps with the hazard switch and such, but when you do an NAS it isn't a direct cross. There are minor differences.
Before you ask... no I don't have connectors to sell. I only have a handful and they are for customer cars, unless I find more somewhere.
You could find the connectors and do it like we do, or you could cut the connectors off an existing harness, or cut the sub harness out of the center console out of a Disco 2, it has most of the connectors you need.
If you want to do this without killing yourself get a junk yard to cut the connectors off a D2 junk, or a junk 90 in the UK, buying a Td5 harness would likely break the bank.
I have a Td5 110 in the shop today, so if you need pictures of the connectors let me know.
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Thanks all.
Randy,
My research shows the hazard switch is the same as used in late (98s for sure) NAS D1. I'm going to try to find one in a scrap yard and verify connector is the same. EE= Expedition Exchange? Didn't realize they had that sort of thing.
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The company that makes the Hazzard plug is Sumitomo Wiring Systems.. Part # F(6090-1220). Anyone I spoke with, you need to by a bag of about 10000 of them. LEt me know if you can find them in smaller numbers.
Do you need the contacts or just the plastic part of the plug?

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Our engineer is checking to see what we can find. I should have an answer in a day or two.

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Cool. Contacts as well. Thanks Eric. Now who is going to figure out how to splice it in properly? lol
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Cool. Contacts as well. Thanks Eric. Now who is going to figure out how to splice it in properly? lol
I leave that to the ECR guys . I should have an answer on the plugs on Monday or Tuesday.

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I found a plug with no inner pins, where would i get the pins?

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Not yet we can buy them 12,000 at a clip from one of our normal guys. (YIKES) We are still waiting for a quote from one of the small quantity guys that we deal with. The engineer has been keeping me up to date exery few days.

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I have 2 plugs with no inner pins... where can I get the pins to solder to the wires?
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