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Old August 10th, 2008, 02:57 PM
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I found the pins.....relatively cheap.....here is link.....http://uk.rs-online.com/web/search/s...175027&x=0&y=0

Tyco electronics part number 362-9367

Where did you get the connectors....can't find them anywhere????
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Old August 11th, 2008, 11:43 PM
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Help me out brother.......where'd you get the connectors Randy?!?!

I'm spending WAY too much time looking for these things.
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I will get the info later for you. I was not able to buy them since you need to buy 10k of them at once. I did convince the girl to ship me 2 samples though. They came from Japan actually. Who ever figures out the wiring configuration, I will give them my spare one..
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i may have a lead on the connectors. the distributor says he can have them "made to order" with a 40 day lead time.

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i can get an order for 600 connectors for about $350 but this would be one of the "four" keyed conncectors.

My impression is we can use one of the connectors "everywhere" as long as we shave the "key" off so it turns into a universal connector.
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I dont know if you have seen the thread on LR4x4, it is about 11 pages, NAS may be a little different to the UK but might be of some help, at the bottom of the page in this link there is links for RS for the pins and connectors http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?sh...st=40&start=40

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The links in that thread dont seem to work, so paste these part # into the search box to find the item http://uk.rs-online.com/web/


362-8780

530-6319

362-8869
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Old August 22nd, 2008, 11:41 AM
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I dont know if you have seen the thread on LR4x4, it is about 11 pages, NAS may be a little different to the UK but might be of some help, at the bottom of the page in this link there is links for RS for the pins and connectors http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?sh...st=40&start=40

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The links in that thread dont seem to work, so paste these part # into the search box to find the item http://uk.rs-online.com/web/


362-8780

530-6319

362-8869
Hi to everyone here, this is my first post on D90

I was Googling for info on Tyco/AMP part numbers and this forum, and this thread in particular, came up in the results.

I have posted a lot of info on the UK forums regarding retro-fitting a 2002 -> 2006 dash centre console and wiring the switches, so I thought I'd join here and post up some useful links as there is obviously an interest in doing this worthwhile modification in the US.


The thread on LR4x4 that 'paul c' refers to above is not for the 2002 dash console, but is info on retro-fitting the TD5 electronic instrument housing into an earlier Defender.

There is some cross-over between subjects, as the receptacle terminals used in the Sumitomo 14-way connector housing referred to in that thread are the same as the receptacle terminals used in the Sumitiomo 10-way connector housing used for the 2002 Hazard Warning Light Switch and also the 4-way Sumitomo connector housing used for the 2002 'One-Touch' Rear Fog Lamp ECU that the 2002 Fog Lamp Switch operates.

As an aside, the later TD5 instrument upgrade is another worthwhile modification. Complete instrument housings can be picked-up on eBay.co.uk for very reasonable money.


Anyway, back to the 2002 dash console.

These threads are ESSENTIAL READING for anyone planning a 2002 dash console upgrade -

http://www.landroveraddict.com/smf/i...topic=270168.0

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=26669

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=191

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20883

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=35910

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=78633

http://www.landrovernet.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=35478


I hope you find something useful amongst that lot


I'm currently selling a couple of D2 Rear Door Wiring Harnesses on eBay.co.uk

These harnesses contain a purple Tyco/AMP 6-way Multi-Lock connector, for the rear door electric window switches, these can be modified (by removing the key-ways) so that they fit the dash console electric window switches -

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200248204494

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=200248203651


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Where did you guys end up with this project? is there an easy US source for the connectors?
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Old August 4th, 2009, 08:54 PM
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Cabell got all the connectors he needed from Will Tillery Roverguy.com. They were used from the dash harness in a disco so he got about 6 inches of wire to splice onto as well as the plugs.
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thanks Doug,
disco 1 or 2...any specific year?
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Old August 4th, 2009, 09:26 PM
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Cabell just handed Will the center dash section with the switches and Will matched them up. Sorry I cant be more help than that.
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D1., '98 vintage I think. Hazard switch, fog switches etc. all plugged right in.
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You looking for something like this?

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/c...cat=262&page=1

FWIW I purchased a few diffrent connectors from EE so it might be worth giving them a call.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 10:42 PM
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This could help, found it a few months ago. http://www.reedx.net/landrover/mods/2002dash/index.htm
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Hazard Warning Light Switch Connector

I found a supplier for the Sumitomo 10-way HM Series connector used on the post 2002 Defender Hazard Warning Light Switch.

He supplies a connector set, comprising of - female shell with 10 x female terminals + male shell, with 10 x male terminals

Ref: 10P090K-SMHM, for $6.49 + P&P, here -

http://www.easternbeaver.com/Main/El...onnectors.html


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Just ordered some plugs today.. Cabell, did you ever finish your wiring?
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I purchased the connector above. Does anybody have a cheat sheet on which wires go to which pin position. I see the reedx listing but it does not translate to the NAS wiring. Couple of the wires on the nas plug are even doubled up. The Green ones and Purple ones on a nas.
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I purchased the connector above. Does anybody have a cheat sheet on which wires go to which pin position. I see the reedx listing but it does not translate to the NAS wiring. Couple of the wires on the nas plug are even doubled up. The Green ones and Purple ones on a nas.
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I'm assuming that you're referring to the Hazard Warning Light Switch.


First off - Here are the Circuit Diagrams for the Hazards & Indicators from the RAVEs for the NAS Defender and the 2002 Defender -


NAS Defender

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Pin 1 - Light Green - Flasher
Pin 2 - Purple - Permanent Live
Pin 3 - Green/White - RH Indicators
Pin 4 - Green - Ignition Switched Live
Pin 5 - Light Green/Brown - Indicator Switch
Pin 6 - Green/Red - LH Indicators
Pin 7 - Black/Red - Loops back into switch from Pin 8 (for flashing warning lamp in switch)
Pin 8 - Black/Red - Loops out of switch to Pin 7 (for flashing warning lamp in switch)
Pin 9 - Black - Earth
Pin 10 - Black - Earth
Pin 11 - Red/White - Switch/Instrument Night-time illumination


This is from RAVE for the 2002 Defender, showing which colour wires go to which pins on the Connector (the diagram is of the Face of the Connector, i.e. the front, not the cable-entry side) -

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Pin 1 - White/Green - Ignition Switched Live
Pin 2 - Purple/Brown - Permanent Live
Pin 3 - Light Green - Flasher
Pin 4 - Red/Orange - Dash Lights (for Switch Night-time illumination)
Pin 5 - Black - Earth
Pin 6 - Light Green/Brown - Indicator Switch
Pin 7 - Green/Red - LH Indicators
Pin 8 - Black/Red - To flashing 'Hazard Warning' Symbol in Instrument Pod - * see note
Pin 9 - Green/White - RH Indicators
Pin 10 - Not Used


Here's a picture of the back of the Hazard Warning Light Switch, which I've annotated to show Pins 1 through 9 (and the gap where Pin 10 would have been) -

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So, by my calculations, you need to connect your 2002 Hazard Warning Light Switch, as follows -

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* note -

Unlike earlier switch types, the 2002 Hazard Warning Light Switch doesn't flash when the Hazards are switched on. Instead, there's a separate Red Triangle 'Hazard' symbol that flashes in the instrument pod warning lamps.

NAS Instruments

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2002 (RHD) Instruments

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I'm assuming that you're referring to the Hazard Warning Light Switch.


First off - Here are the Circuit Diagrams for the Hazards & Indicators from the RAVEs for the NAS Defender and the 2002 Defender -


NAS Defender

Attachment 30619



2002 Defender

Attachment 30620



This should be what you currently have (from the NAS RAVE) -

Attachment 30618

Pin 1 - Light Green - Flasher
Pin 2 - Purple - Permanent Live
Pin 3 - Green/White - RH Indicators
Pin 4 - Green - Ignition Switched Live
Pin 5 - Light Green/Brown - Indicator Switch
Pin 6 - Green/Red - LH Indicators
Pin 7 - Black/Red - Loops back into switch from Pin 8 (for flashing warning lamp in switch)
Pin 8 - Black/Red - Loops out of switch to Pin 7 (for flashing warning lamp in switch)
Pin 9 - Black - Earth
Pin 10 - Black - Earth
Pin 11 - Red/White - Switch/Instrument Night-time illumination


This is from RAVE for the 2002 Defender, showing which colour wires go to which pins on the Connector (the diagram is of the Face of the Connector, i.e. the front, not the cable-entry side) -

Attachment 30616

Pin 1 - White/Green - Ignition Switched Live
Pin 2 - Purple/Brown - Permanent Live
Pin 3 - Light Green - Flasher
Pin 4 - Red/Orange - Dash Lights (for Switch Night-time illumination)
Pin 5 - Black - Earth
Pin 6 - Light Green/Brown - Indicator Switch
Pin 7 - Green/Red - LH Indicators
Pin 8 - Black/Red - To flashing 'Hazard Warning' Symbol in Instrument Pod - * see note
Pin 9 - Green/White - RH Indicators
Pin 10 - Not Used


Here's a picture of the back of the Hazard Warning Light Switch, which I've annotated to show Pins 1 through 9 (and the gap where Pin 10 would have been) -

Attachment 30615



So, by my calculations, you need to connect your 2002 Hazard Warning Light Switch, as follows -

Attachment 30621

* note -

Unlike earlier switch types, the 2002 Hazard Warning Light Switch doesn't flash when the Hazards are switched on. Instead, there's a separate Red Triangle 'Hazard' symbol that flashes in the instrument pod warning lamps.

NAS Instruments

Attachment 30623


2002 (RHD) Instruments

Attachment 30624


2002 Instrument Warning Lights

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Brent, these are the diagrams I used.....
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Old September 4th, 2010, 02:29 AM
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Thanks for the quick response guys. I am going to try and tackle this in the morning. So can I just leave Pin 8 on the new switch blank since I will not have an indicator in the instrument pod. Will this be ok or will it create an incomplete circuit. I know dumb ?s but when it comes to electrical I have no clue. If that is the case pin 7 and 8 on the nas plug will not be used and I will only be using one black ground wire. & Should i use a touch of solder or is that overkill?
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