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Old February 11th, 2013, 07:38 PM
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I'm surprised that there isnt alot of talk about the Kevlar MTR's (285/75/16). I think they are great. I've had two sets on the 90's and even my off road trailer has them. The set on my green 90 has 35K on them and will maybe go another 10 or 15k. Thats not me in my 90 thats a very happy 20 something (Casey)! lol...
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Old February 11th, 2013, 08:43 PM
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If you already have tires picked out, the right thing to do it look at the manufacturer's specifications for that particular tire, which will include an approved rim width range.

Staying within the approved rim width range helps assure that the tire's internal stresses are within its design parameters.

Tire sidewalls are supposed to be vertical, since they're what's holding the tire tread stable against the car's weight and protecting the wheel against impacts.

Factory alloys are 7" wide (Disco 2 and P38 Range Rover are 8") which means technically the widest tire you should be running on a factory alloy is a 285/75R16... technically. But of course that is all dependent on what the tire manufacturer says.
Yeah, I know each tire has a specific rim width range. I also know that is commonly ignored. I also know that D90's can more easily fit larger tires and is often done on stock alloys, which is why I asked here instead of Dweb.
Even the 285/75/16 BFG KM2's have a rim width range of 7.5"-9" and shouldn't technically be used on stock alloys, but they are.
I wanted to get people's opinions that have actually run 33's and 35's on stock alloys.

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Old February 11th, 2013, 09:51 PM
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Yeah, I know each tire has a specific rim width range. I also know that is commonly ignored. I also know that D90's can more easily fit larger tires and is often done on stock alloys, which is why I asked here instead of Dweb.
Even the 285/75/16 BFG KM2's have a rim width range of 7.5"-9" and shouldn't technically be used on stock alloys, but they are.
I wanted to get people's opinions that have actually run 33's and 35's on stock alloys.

So does this mean I'm unshunned?
Yes and never post here again! they welcome your sort on Jeep sites!! You with your heavy mods and big tire ideas... lol
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:02 PM
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That is weird, kind of creepy to know someone was taking photos of my 1993 Defender.

fishEH, seems like you know what you are doing. long as you have the lift and trim job to do it then go for it. I've had mine on for 5 or 6 years and have cruised cross country and used them in every condition. Never popped one off the bead and they road real nice. Gearing might need to be changed depending what you have in your Disco now.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:11 PM
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That is weird, kind of creepy to know someone was taking photos of my 1993 Defender.
Haha seriously. I just love how they walked ALL THE WAY around your truck snapping photos yet not a single shot is taken of you paying any attention to them, nor do you remember them doing so. haha.
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Old February 11th, 2013, 10:27 PM
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I thought I read somewhere that the alloys hold a bead very well, so it wasn't such a big deal running a larger tire.
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So does this mean I'm unshunned?
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:53 AM
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Haha!
When you do reply can you start your post with "un-shun" and end it with "re-shun"? That was I know I'm still shunned, thanks.
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Old February 12th, 2013, 11:59 AM
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Haha!
When you do reply can you start your post with "un-shun" and end it with "re-shun"? That was I know I'm still shunned, thanks.
had to do it again for this one!

how about tags like [SHUN] [/SHUN] ?
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Old February 12th, 2013, 01:15 PM
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had to do it again for this one!

how about tags like [SHUN] [/SHUN] ?
Perfect.
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Old February 18th, 2013, 11:39 AM
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So you guys running 35's, are you locked/unlocked and HD/stock axled up front?
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Old February 18th, 2013, 01:32 PM
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I'm surprised that there isnt alot of talk about the Kevlar MTR's (285/75/16). I think they are great. I've had two sets on the 90's and even my off road trailer has them. The set on my green 90 has 35K on them and will maybe go another 10 or 15k. Thats not me in my 90 thats a very happy 20 something (Casey)! lol...
I'm sure I've mentioned them before. When I went up to 315's I researched the shit out of any and all tires in that size and then went with the GY's. I think they are a great mix of price/weight/availability/performance (although I think the price went up since I bought mine).

I pick up the off-road magazines from time to time and see them a lot being used by rigs in them. They are a little weird looking at first but I've gotten used to it and they do look better in person. I still need to get some off-road time on them but right when I got them and went to Rausch they did great.

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So you guys running 35's, are you locked/unlocked and HD/stock axled up front?
Rear - Toy E-locker w/ 4.1s, RovingTracks 30 spline HD axles
Front - currently stock but a Toy HP (open) w/ 4.1s, RovingTracks 30 spline on the shop floor getting built.
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Old February 18th, 2013, 02:05 PM
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I've used 285/75s (33.1"ish) and 315/75s (34.6"ish) on stock 16" wheels without de-beading issues at a variety of pressures, as long as the lift and tire clearance allow for it. The larger/wider may also probably require wheel spacers with stock LR wheels or you'll get radius arm rubbing at full lock.

My 94 currently has 285/75 Yokohama ATs with a 2" OME lift, and my 97 has 315/75 BFG MTRs with a 4"ish RTE lift. Both are on stock LR, NYC-favorite 'Boost' wheels. (The ones from US 98 Disco HSEs and forever to present ROW Defenders)

Not to hijack your thread, but I'l probably be posting my 6k-odd mile 315/75 BFG MTR tires for sale soon for anyone interested. My impending transfer overseas this summer is going to drive the sale of one or both of my trucks, so I'm going to return it/them mostly to stock ride height and apprearance anticipating the sale. I just ordered a smaller set for installation later in the week. More on that later in a separate thread, I suppose.

I've been using TruTrac diffs with different gearing for the big tires on the 97. Hadn't gotten around to the 94 yet with the 33s, but intended similar with 4.11 gears.

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Rear - Toy E-locker w/ 4.1s, RovingTracks 30 spline HD axles
Front - currently stock but a Toy HP (open) w/ 4.1s, RovingTracks 30 spline on the shop floor getting built.
Any problems running the stock shafts/diff in the front with the 315's?
I have an ARB in the rear with Rovertracks axles. Just wondering if my front will be ok with the 315's until I can upgrade the front?
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Any problems running the stock shafts/diff in the front with the 315's?
I have an ARB in the rear with Rovertracks axles. Just wondering if my front will be ok with the 315's until I can upgrade the front?
I only ran it one trip and try to keep things mellow when driving and it was good. My thinking (and this is just theory and with talking with others) is that a beefy rear axle goes really far. If you think about it going up hill the weight is more rear biased and will be more stressed. Going downhill you shouldn't need much throttle so as long as you pick the right line and don't get too aggro you should be fine. But like I said merely a theory.
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Any problems running the stock shafts/diff in the front with the 315's?
I have an ARB in the rear with Rovertracks axles. Just wondering if my front will be ok with the 315's until I can upgrade the front?
Carry spare axles. I figure if you have to have a weak point it is better to snap an axle than it is to grenade a diff.
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Carry spare axles. I figure if you have to have a weak point it is better to snap an axle than it is to grenade a diff.
Forgot to add that - usually can be done on trail too.
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Forgot to add that - usually can be done on trail too.
True. Though somehow I managed to chew up some spider gears on an open diff on 32's and the stock axles came away unscathed. That was back in my heavy foot days though.
I'll throw my spare front axles/cv's in the truck until I can upgrade.
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Tire Size and Wheel Flares

I have a quick questions. My wife just got a suburban with 17" rims on it, and some Toyo MT's. We are thinking about switching the MT's over to a set of steel rims for my d-90 (wider rims). That said the tires are 295/70/17's. I am running a 2" OME lift. I am worried that if I go with this setup, I will have problem with my tires rubbing the fenders or wheel flares. Is this a decent concern?
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Old March 26th, 2013, 04:51 PM
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That size will probably need a bit of flare trimming. No big deal. It won't be simple finding 17" rims for the 90 though.
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