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Old May 2nd, 2009, 10:45 AM
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From Turner Engineering UK at $3000 for a short block before shipping the exchange rate is not good enough... I could find a 300TDi for not much more than that....

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So could I use my 3.9L intake and EFI system, do I need to use my heads as well, or ?

You mentioned I'd need to swap in a 4.2L chip into my ECU - that's it?
$3000 for a tdi motor will get you a take out unit, all tdi's here have a minimum of 100,000 miles on them, low mileage units dont exist IMO, Defender 200tdi's are rarer than rocking horse shite. And a rebuilt turn key 200/300 will set you back a minimum of $4000.
Turner make great engines, the quality is second to none. I agree with pendy - go with turner.
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Old May 2nd, 2009, 11:19 AM
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a small hijack but relevant. Will a 3.9 vbelt cover work on a 4.2 serpentine block? I am guessing 3.9 ancillaries wont work on a v-belt block?
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So you want the cliff notes since I will not write the book?

4.2 serpentine is still and early casting. External oil pump front cover will work, if my memeory serves me correctly. And I believe the cylinder heads have all the relevant holes tapped for the earlier anchillaries.

Why don't you want to keep the serp belt setup?
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So you want the cliff notes since I will not write the book?

4.2 serpentine is still and early casting. External oil pump front cover will work, if my memeory serves me correctly. And I believe the cylinder heads have all the relevant holes tapped for the earlier anchillaries.

Why don't you want to keep the serp belt setup?

I dont have serp. I was thinking about a 4.2 from a 95 to a 91
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95 is the only year RRC is serp It is a straight drop in as is for the most part. Into your D90.

The earlier 4.2's are v-belt already.

Do you have a motor located in particular? Maybe best to find one then come ask the questions.
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I hope Ive got time. I was mostly interested in the ancillaries and what wouldnt work from my vbelt if I did end up with the serp configuration. I need to go through the archives I suppose. I am familiar with years had and how they were configured. I would like to keep it all as simple as possible. the GEMS truck and the cross bolted mains are nice but no harder than I run a truck I dont see the need. I am asking questions so I will get the right engine. I am sure I could hotrod a 3.9 a little they seems to be plentiful.
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Some early serp belt engines have a distributor which makes it a drop in for you. But these early engines will not be cross drilled on the mains. 4.2 in 95 RRC LWB or 3.9 in 94 95 Disco.

Hotrod an early 3.9 is a viable option. It really comes down to what is available to you at what cost. And how much you want to spend above that to make it what you want.

If you just want a bit more rebuild what you got with a crower cam and have it balanced. You may not even need to replace the pistons. If you are not running it as hard as the threads' posters truck.
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Nobody's mentioned pinning the liners. Isn't this a solution to this problem in these motors? I'd try that on a dirt cheap 3.9 and not worry about being out much.
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Dunno, doesn't everyone here get excited enough to JO over their vehicles once in awhile?

What is 'pinning' the liner? I have heard there is an expensive retro-fit liner option which has a 'top hat' lip on it to prevent droppage.. but I've never heard of pinning before.

A V-belt 4.2 sounds like the perfect solution... but also sounds like a rare motor to find.
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Old May 3rd, 2009, 02:06 PM
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Pinning is nothing more than drilling a bolt through the block and liner and grinding it smooth. Stops any liner shift. I've seen it done on diesels as well.

As for the 4.2, I have one in a 93 RR LWB that I'm trying to sell:

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/cto/1152362867.html

You're in CA so it probably isn't cost effective, assuming you're interested.
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You wouldn't separate the motor and ship it, would you?
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Old May 4th, 2009, 11:32 AM
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No. I don't want to be stuck with having to part out this truck and have it sit in the yard longer than necessary.

If anyone wants to help out by purchasing it from me and doing a deal with you for what you want that's fine.
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