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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:35 PM
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Is this a NAS?

Hi Guys,

Just wanted some opinions if this is a genuine NAS. If it is its a very early one, September 1993 registered by land rover and stayed over here in the UK.

Whats wrong and right with it?

Can someone tell me if thats a info plate in the drivers footwell by the cluth pedal, and what info would be on it?

Many thanks

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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:48 PM
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Its got a lot of the features of a NAS, but a few oddities also. The white sticker is the standard placement for the required MVHSS (Motor Vehicle Highway Safety Standards?) US compliance sticker that has the VIN and other info on it.

The front bumper is newer with no 93/94-only bumper turn signals (and plus endcaps). I has a diesel fender. There is no NAS rear step bumper. It doesn't appear to have the number plaque on the back. I also don't know which color red that is.

If you can get the VIN you can compare it with the LR FAQ and try to find out more.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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If it is a 94 NAS 90, where are the bumper turn sigs?

oops...JimC beat me to it while I was typing.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:50 PM
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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:56 PM
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Thanks for the info Jim
So its a sticker in the footwell. Anyone got a pic of one to see whats on it?

The vin is SALLDVAM8LA934460.

My guess is a possible front end accident so bumper and wing were replaced? I think it does not have a numbered plate as it my be a pre production one built by land rover for press and testing? It was made before september 93, when did the POE model arrive?


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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:57 PM
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Defer to the experts, but at first glance I would bet no. What is the VIN #?

Edit, ah nevermind, someone beat me to it..
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Old November 11th, 2009, 06:59 PM
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Didn't Mike from ECR post some pics of some NAS trucks in the safety devices factory that were there as prototypes for the NAS cage? It could be one of those. Also, wasn't there a run of NAS-like trucks sold in the UK that were kind of an ugly teal color that were produced in '92 or '93?
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:02 PM
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:03 PM
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the teal ones are a special edition in the UK
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:06 PM
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Didn't Mike from ECR post some pics of some NAS trucks in the safety devices factory that were there as prototypes for the NAS cage? It could be one of those. Also, wasn't there a run of NAS-like trucks sold in the UK that were kind of an ugly teal color that were produced in '92 or '93?
yes there was the 93 SV but that was RHD with SW doors, a full cage and TDI
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:07 PM
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My thoughts.....the owner built the 90 to look like a "NAS" truck. Look at the rear tailgate, a NAS 90 logo on the door to identify "Hey I have a NAS 90" like some fools put M badges on non M BMWs. Why anyone would want to do this is beyond me, but maybe b/c NAS trucks were not available over there it had a "cool" factor as do the RHD trucks here in the states.

IIRC, didn't LR install the rear badge at the PORT when the trucks arrived...since this one never came over it never got a badge....
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i see the number plate and it says in cheap lettering NAS 90.
I would have to believe its a NAS 90. the amount of money it would take to make that into NAS form would be more than the cost of an NAS truck. He had to do the V8, the cage, the NAS SPEC TUB, the other cage, the doors and door tops, the number plate. and many people replace their front bumper.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:08 PM
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Also, wasn't there a run of NAS-like trucks sold in the UK that were kind of an ugly teal color that were produced in '92 or '93?
Yeah, a Defender 90SV. Made in 1993, only 90 made and over half exported to hotter climates as didnt sell well in the UK. Not the best colour but i do have one as its a rare beast
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That's not a US-format VIN, check out this:

http://www.lrfaq.org/FAQ.3.Chassis_Numbers.html

Note that the US VIN's don't use the 5th digit the same way, and the SA/RA right before the serial number does not correspond to the UK chart. The serial number of 934460 seems to to fall before the earliest NAS of 935637.

A prototype seems like a likely explanation, and it makes complete sense that not all the special parts like the rear bumper would have been available when it was put together. The turn signals in the bumper are just standard US truck and trailer parts, and could have easily been a last-minute addition. The fender also just could have come from the production line. It would be interesting to see how the air filter is mounted to the bulkhead.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:18 PM
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I would have to believe its a NAS 90. the amount of money it would take to make that into NAS form would be more than the cost of an NAS truck. He had to do the V8, the cage, the NAS SPEC TUB, the other cage, the doors and door tops, the number plate. and many people replace their front bumper.
Thats my thinking. Its even got a NAS chassis as UK spec would be fuel tank under seat.

I missed out on buy it and i think i should have jumped on it now!

I would love to know whats on the footwell sticker, as it might be the info that was needed to verify it with land rover.
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:21 PM
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I'm sticking with the prototype guess. The serial number and build date makes the theory seem very plausible. But, like everything else, its had 15-plus years for someone to mess with it, adulterate it, and otherwise screw it up.

Don't feel too bad about missing it - the rear cage would have been expensive!
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:27 PM
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Thanks Jim.
Yeah the guy who had is was not a proper enthusiast, hense all the crap on it!
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Old November 11th, 2009, 07:32 PM
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... it had a "cool" factor as do the RHD trucks here in the states...
RHD is cool?
Have never given it much thought, but I assumed most ROW truck owners with RHD here simply tolerated it, and, if given the chance would prefer to switch to LHD.
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RHD is cool?
Have never given it much thought, but I assumed most ROW truck owners with RHD here simply tolerated it, and, if given the chance would prefer to switch to LHD.
haha I guess... probably should of said something like the cool factor of having a 300 tdi....
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GYM, Some may just tolerate RHD, but I Prefer it...something about it that just fits the truck.

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RHD is cool?
Have never given it much thought, but I assumed most ROW truck owners with RHD here simply tolerated it, and, if given the chance would prefer to switch to LHD.
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