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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Is it my tires or this 110 that suck?

Ive been going in and out of my field all day hauling out dead trees with the 109". Suddenly my cluch craps out and go in with the 110 to pull it out and get stuck in the mud before i even get there. Im running the stock Michelin X's. This was not serious mud and like i said i drove over it several times with the 109 with a full load of logs with no problem. Is it just that the tires are bad in the mud or that this 110 is way too heavy? It seemed to sink like a stone as soon as I got onto soft ground. I havent had the chance to offroad this vehicle yet so I dont know its limitations. Should i get different tires? Any thoughts would help...oh and so would a winch! My wife got a real kick out of seeing both of my "invincible" land rovers stuck in the field.

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The third option of course is that Im the one that sucks. I thought i would throw that out there before someone else did.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:19 PM
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The third option of course is that Im the one that sucks. I thought i would throw that out there before someone else did.
Thats what I was going to suggest!

But seriously.... was your CDL locked? how bad is the tread on the current tires? Tire tread makes all the difference...
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Old August 19th, 2008, 04:22 PM
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Yes, yes, and perhaps yes!? Michelin X's stink and your 110 is heavy, but the most critical component is the biologic link between the steering wheel and accelerator pedal. Significant weight is hard to shed, habits are very hard to change but tires are just $$. IMO
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Old August 19th, 2008, 05:19 PM
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OEM Michelin X tires are not any good at all in mud. XPCs are not bad.
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Old August 19th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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I locked the CDL after i got stuck but it was too late by then. The tires have plenty of tread but they are skinny and seemed to sink right down. Im used to playing in the mud in my RRC with 31 MTR's so im hoping Im not hardwired to get stuck. I guess its time to look at a tire change. These X's are terrible onroad and bad in the mud. So what are they good for?
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Old August 19th, 2008, 06:52 PM
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http://www.greatgreengoods.com/2006/...ecycled-tires/

If your tires are hygienic enough #11
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Old August 19th, 2008, 07:39 PM
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Thats funny
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Old August 20th, 2008, 09:36 AM
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I locked the CDL after i got stuck but it was too late by then. The tires have plenty of tread but they are skinny and seemed to sink right down. Im used to playing in the mud in my RRC with 31 MTR's so im hoping Im not hardwired to get stuck. I guess its time to look at a tire change. These X's are terrible onroad and bad in the mud. So what are they good for?
I think you should have been in CDL b/4 the mud. I obviously can't see what your talking about but it sounds like it was some significant mud if you were sinking. Without CDL engaged you were effectively in 2 wheel drive, right.
I grew up in south Louisiana. I remember mud, real mud. It takes a heavy right foot.

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Old August 20th, 2008, 05:15 PM
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I agree with you. I usually engage the CDL in the RRC when it comes time to get into some snow or mud but this time in the 110 It didnt start out as mud and certainly not like in your pic. It was just soft ground the few times I drove over it with the 109 so I didnt see any reason to engage the CDL.
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Old August 20th, 2008, 06:09 PM
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I agree with you. I usually engage the CDL in the RRC when it comes time to get into some snow or mud but this time in the 110 It didnt start out as mud and certainly not like in your pic. It was just soft ground the few times I drove over it with the 109 so I didnt see any reason to engage the CDL.
Well, I should have known if you own a 110, 109 and a RRC you know how to wheel and use the CDL.
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Actually 2 109's 2 RRC , one new RR and the 110...but who's counting? oh yeah my wife who thinks ive lost my mind! We drove the 110 up the coast today and decided to stop by ECR. She turned to me and says " so what was this b.s. you told me about there only being 500 of these things in the country" I said there are who knew they would all be here at once!
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perhaps the soild softened up from your previous passes in the 109? This is usually easy to tel as the ground is noticablely softer.
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Yeah im sure its a combination of things. Skinny tires, ground that was starting to give way and my own inexperience driving this particular truck. Its a lot heavier than the 109 and ground that could support the pickup gave way like quicksand under the weight of the 110. But what it really means is Ive got an excuse to get a new set of tires and its time to get this thing dirty. Any upcoming events in New England?
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We go out fairly often......but the 110 might not like it.

Did your fuel tank fix itself?
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Old August 21st, 2008, 07:32 AM
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Why wouldnt it like it? Can i expect damage when you guys go out?

No i still need to bring it to you. Ive not been able to convince someone to follow me down to you so i can get a ride back. If i tow a vehicle behind me do you have some room in the yard for a trailer so i can drive myself home and Ill tow it back when the 110 is done?
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Old August 21st, 2008, 06:26 PM
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If you take even a glance at my heap it would be fairly evident that trail damage will sometimes "happen". It's not like I braille drive.... or intentionally hit things....just some pretty tight goin' in this neck of the woods.

these guys get out on a regular run http://snhlr.org/

I get scared that people will swipe trailers out of the yard....other than that no worries.
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[QUOTE=phoenix37Ive not been able to convince someone to follow me down to you so i can get a ride back. [/QUOTE]
John,

I live in York and work in Portland and Matt is my mechanic. I'm sure we can work out an arrangement where you drive down early some work day and I drive you back home (assuming it's fairly close to Portland.) I can then bring you down to Matt's after work and you can drive home. PM me for contact info.

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Old August 21st, 2008, 09:04 PM
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Hey Gary thats real nice of you actually i just convinced the wife to follow me down next week. Something about me having a leaky gas tank and being a smoker made her realize ok maybe this isnt just an excuse to go see more Rovers!
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