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Old December 27th, 2010, 02:09 PM
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Is adding air to a car that never had air (european defender) a ridiculous mess.

I have an 85 defender. It is a RHD with a 2.5 na diesel. Slow but steady. Love the Car it has a removable hard top. I have a roll cage for it. I like the NAS one better, as I have a europeon soft one, but I'm not willing to pay 10K for it. I'd love to do a crap load to this car from change the engine to make and auto to add air, who the hell knows. I've wanted to have this car since I was a kid and now I have it. I know the R380 traditionally only goes with the 300tdi. I have a LT77 that seems in decent shape so a 200tdi is the way of least resistance. I'd like to add air , but maybe too much to do to this car. I'm moving to California, southern and don't want to not drive the car in the summer because it is unbearable. What are the thoughts of the more seasoned verterns on this site. I have access to one of the premier diesel shops in the east coast so I could conceivably have access to the international 2.8 Idk. I know all the crap I mentioned isn't cheap I'm just brain storming.
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Old December 27th, 2010, 09:55 PM
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There are bolt-on kits for the earlier Defenders without A/C, although I don't know if there's one for the N/A diesel. I've got one in my '84 with a 300 TDi (that also has the LT77). I did not install the kit, but it doesn't look like it was too horrible (i.e. no unsightly cuts, welds, or gobs of sealant), given it was designed for a Defender.

But California weather isn't that bad. Put on a Bimini top, remove the doors, and you'll be good to go. That's the way my old CJ is set up for Texas summers, and it gets hotter here than southern California. Of course, I bike to and from work in 100 degree weather, so my opinion may not be typical .
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Old December 28th, 2010, 07:46 AM
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A/C was available for the old 2.5 NA diesel. it'll certainly help to act as an engine brake when you turn the compressor on! LOL
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:02 PM
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I live in So Cal and had air in my truck and removed it because I never used it and I valued the foot room in the passenger footwell more. I roll year round with a Bimini top and just put the doors on in the winter and take them off in the summer. It doesn't get that hot here.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:18 PM
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I'm with Joe - I dont have air and it really is only rough a couple weeks a year if that - as long as all the windows are off its not bad - although if I could pick up an ac unit for cheap I would get it - my wife and I dont always see eye to eye -

on an aside Joe if you ever want to go out wheeling let me know - would be fun to go with another 90
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Old December 28th, 2010, 12:34 PM
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The a/c puts a really heavy load on these rigs...especially diesels. If you want to feel raw power and a really fast Rover...turn off your a/c.
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Old December 28th, 2010, 01:43 PM
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I have air on my 94 truck and it sucks balls. Tried charging it, changing compressor, air/dryer receiver, except for evaporator, anyone know where I can get one? lol I don't even know if that would even work anyway, I just gave up years ago, although its still in there.
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I am all for taking the air out of my 97. I want the leg room!
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Old December 28th, 2010, 08:47 PM
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I posted the belt # and what to do under the hood for getting rid of your a/c system on another post here this morning.
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I'm moving to southern CA thats why I wanted the auto and air.
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I'm moving to southern CA thats why I wanted the auto and air.
and We're telling you that we live in Southern California and air is worthless!
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Old December 30th, 2010, 09:11 AM
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I live in LA and don't have AC. It pisses me off not having it literally three days a year. Otherwise vents open and I am fine. As for auto just because you are moving to souther california. Man up.
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I wouldn't live without A/C, but I live borderline with the rain forest. Yes, Def's AC is the worst ever, but every little bit of dampness off the air helps, as does every degree less

In fact, next year I will probably do the unspeakable and shove an underdash system in the Series.

As for AT, if I can drive a stick in Caracas traffic... you get my drift.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 10:19 AM
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after doing nyc traffic, I just don't want to do the shifting under for too much longer in perpetual traffic is all.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 10:35 AM
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A better question might be *where* in SoCal? It's a big area, and to be honest the traffic is only in a few choice spots.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 11:23 AM
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Yeah where in southern california?
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Old December 30th, 2010, 11:48 AM
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A better question might be *where* in SoCal? It's a big area, and to be honest the traffic is only in a few choice spots.
Please list the 'few' spots where there is traffic in SoCal.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 11:55 AM
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Moving to LA.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 01:40 PM
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I'm gonna try to fix my AC with this kid I know who works at pepboys, he supposedly is ASE certified to work on aircon so mabye he can help me figure it out, I'd like to see how well I can get this thing to work, if not oh well, like Barry says windows open helps alot, plus I do have other cars to drive, the D90 was always a fun mobile for me.
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Old December 30th, 2010, 01:46 PM
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Neil which car needs ac work? I went through the 110 if you need to know anything.

Auto is not needed in la as far as I am concerned. No matter what you do it is still an 84 defender not a lexus
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