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Old April 19th, 2005, 02:01 PM
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Just wait David. I will warn you it will not stop there. You will find yourself looking at a few other upgrades while the truck is all disasembled in the shop. It's bound to happen. Just accept the fact your wallet will be open for a while...
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Old April 19th, 2005, 04:31 PM
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I already know that, I probably will get the chassis galvanized as I know the truck will eventually end up in NY. Then there will be the lockers, some suspension work... hmmm, what else can I do? Anyone have some suggestions?
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Old April 19th, 2005, 04:33 PM
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Well, this is turning into my favorite post...


I've also been thinking about BIODIESEL... don't know if I'd go that route, but just doing research. Any of you 2.8 Powerstroke owners thinking of running Biodiesel ? or running it now ? I'm interested to hear...

In any case, here's INTERNATIONAL's Statement on running Biodiesel in their engines.

Oh... Marchand... I sent you an email.





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Old April 20th, 2005, 08:26 AM
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If you galvy the chassis, it's a great time to waxoyl the heck out of your bulkhead and entire undercarriage, including the tub supports (which are steel).

Nick, got your email. I've been slammed. I'll get to it.

Bio should be fine to run. The key to bio is running the right mixture so that it doesn't affect you seals. In addition, you need to be careful where you source your bio. Some shops don't do a good job of storing or mixing.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 08:29 AM
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Thanks Dave, will do that.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 11:05 AM
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Not a problem... don't worry about it... I got the answers already.




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Old April 20th, 2005, 06:33 PM
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mdengineering.co.uk

The kit comes with everything you need. Just have to install it. I paid 6080, but that included the two uprated Allisport intercoolers, I ordered their option 1&2 sizes as well as a HD radiator. Shipping is about $1000, with tax and fees. It hasn't shipped yet but that is the customs broker's estimate.
David,

It's a funny thing.. I was wondering what you meant by the Allisport Intercoolers, option 1&2 for a few days, then I went to the website you listed, which I typed exactly and it came up with one website... Then, I typed www.mdengineering.co.uk and got a completely different website. Pretty funny, the set up 2 A name records (for you computer geeks like me... I control a bunch of DNS servers...) for the same domain name... which you can do of course, but generally not for 'with www' and 'without'...

In any case, I'll check out the website finally...



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P.S. Just looked through the website and still can't see what you're talking about ? Maybe it's not posted online ?

Thanks
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Old April 20th, 2005, 08:29 PM
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Nicholas,
Sorry for the confusion, the listed link is for Motor & Diesel, which you asked for the other day.
http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/

The intercoolers are made by Allisport in the UK. The link is
http://www.allisport.com/list_coolers.php?cat_id=1

Andy is the contact there, they're great. They are actually making me a special "option 2" intercooler so I can still keep my A/C. The problem is the thicker "option 2" intercooler and the A/C's condenser don't fit in the allowed space. Hopefully this will work. All the MD kits come with Allisport intercoolers, they usually come with just a standard size "no frills" unit. The cost for the upgrade was 300 for option 1 and 365 for option 2. They claim the option 2 will increase power and torque by 30%. If you have any more questions let me know, I'd be more than happy to share my research with you.
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Old April 20th, 2005, 09:38 PM
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Hello all if you want bang for your buck there are intercoolers made in the USA that are 1/2 the cost when you take into consideration shipping. They are also better made.You have to remember 90 degrees F is not really known that often in the UK let alone 130 F.Oh my Gosh I am a Canadian telling Americans to by American.

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Old April 25th, 2005, 10:31 AM
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Update on PARTS KIT from Motor & Diesel

I joined the HS2800TDI (2.8 Powerstroke) group on yahoo and the guy from M&D Posted this about the kit, which he is now going to offer just as a KIT without the engine:

"...The price for NAS D90 V8 manual or auto kit follows..."

Kit 153 (no engine) 1650
Surcharge for air con kit with compressor, 295
Surcharge for high clamp 242mm clutch 175
Surcharge for Glow timer and loom kit, 55
Surcharge for heavy duty radiator, 199

Sheki, I don't know how much you paid for everything individually but how does this part list/kit look to you ?

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Old April 26th, 2005, 12:41 PM
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Nicholas,
It seems like you would save money on buying the kit and the engine from someone like Stephen; however, the engine needs some modifications in order to fit. I don't recall all of the modifications off hand, some of them are the relocation of the turbo intake and the oil dipstick. I know there are others too. If you plan on doing the install yourself, my guess is you would save about $2000 over all. If you plan having someone else do the install for you might still see some modest saving left over. The kit with engine from M&D is ready for as bolt in as you can get. As far as the HD radiator, you should opt for that, especially since you are in hot FL and probably see a lot of mud too. I got the glow plug kit and I would recomend it as it will save you time trying to make one. The AC kit is on you if have/want to keep your AC. I'm assuming you'll also want the clutch clamp (I have Auto). Something else to consider is also upgrading the intercooler. If you order it through M&D it will be cheaper than getting it here (based on the numbers that were posted on the HS 2800Tdi group). Time may also be something to look into. I don't know how long you would have to wait on getting the engine from someone else. I've heard stories of people waiting months. David at M&D usually has them in stock.
You might want to ask around about how the engine is with a manual. I bought a 97' (auto) with the intention of installing this engine. I was told that even though the torque is just within spec of the transmission, that used as a daily driver in stop and go traffic (I live in the city) would destroy a manual tranny. Also with the high torque/low RPMs 1st gear because almost useless in an on road scenario. You probably could drive from a stop in 2nd gear.
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Old April 26th, 2005, 03:42 PM
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Question turbo spec?

Hello there,
just out of curiosity...
...does anyone know (JP?) how (easily) a 2.8 v turbo ($=?) can be adapted/fitted to a 300?

I'm just toying with the idea.

I have a pic of it somewhere but it doesn't tell so much.
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 09:12 PM
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who says dream don't come true

1.5 yrs in the planning/wishing/hoping and it will be ready by the Rally, can't wait!
Things are going well to date; however, some mechanics still belive in hazing
Still don't know about fitting the XL intercooler with the A/C yet, I'll keep everyone posted and will post pics when it's all done.
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sweeet I want to get it down pat based on others experiences I think it could be possible. I have taken lots of notes
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Old July 3rd, 2005, 10:50 PM
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Hello there,
just out of curiosity...
...does anyone know (JP?) how (easily) a 2.8 v turbo ($=?) can be adapted/fitted to a 300?

I'm just toying with the idea.

I have a pic of it somewhere but it doesn't tell so much.

It can be done. M&D will sell you parts to do it. But it is not recomended. It coule shorten your life expectancy. I bought parts to do it and sold them on and bought the complete motor instead.

Is that purple haze?
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I drove a 2.8 that was done by some duuuudes in Ks. AN awesome truck a 95 with leather seats
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It can be done. M&D will sell you parts to do it. But it is not recomended. (...)Is that purple haze?
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...plan aborted then.




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Old July 13th, 2005, 09:15 AM
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disappointing update:
the XL intercooler was not able to fit! Apparently M&D's new motor mounts placed the engine about 1.75" closer to the front of the truck than than had on previous versions of the mounts. So for now I will just use the standard sized intercooler, with plans on installing a larger one in the winter. Just heads up to anyone looking to order the engine and kit from M&D, the supplied intercooler was welded very sloppily and they even left one seam unfinished. The intercoolers are supplied by AlliSport in the UK and although Andy at AlliSport is very nice and accommodating, the intercoolers I ordered were both a disappointment. You might want to see if David at M&D can supply an intercooler from Allard Turbo Sport. Additionally make sure you get the HD radiator, ask David M. about that one.
Other than that things are going well, I'll see you guys at the Rally.
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