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Old January 11th, 2006, 11:23 AM
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My opinion regarding oil and changing it is... first off I put a HD filtermag onto the oil filter. If you are not familiar with the product, it is a huge magnet that will keep metal particles/engine shavings from recirculating through the engine. Secondly, I can not see any adverse effect (other than being covered with oil) from changing the oil more frequently. I did my first change at 1500mi and my second at 6000mi. It's an easy, inexpensive and quick solution to keeping the engine happy. I'll probably plan on changing the oil every 2000mi-4000mi, depending on the driving that has been done or will be done, i.e. long drive to Moab.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 11:55 AM
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Do not drain the break in oil until the first oil change or running hours recommended by the engine manufacturer. It has less detergents than regular oil to help in seating. Just add regular oil to bring it up to the mark.

In all honesty, there is nothing special about this engine that would benefit from 2000 mile oil changes or a magnet. A good filter, good air,good fuel, good oil and regular changes is all a diesel engine needs. Gee...just like any other engine.

I don't see Cummins recommending a magnet and if they can go 500K+ miles happily that's good enough for me.

It is a shame that you didn't know about the break in oil. I would think MDE would have made it clear.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 12:53 PM
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Raycor is where its at. Available with heater and water sensor. See through bowl. Very nice priming pump.

I can supply them if you have trouble sourcing them.

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Old January 11th, 2006, 05:36 PM
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So far, I know that the injector nozzles and glow plugs are damaged beyond repair.
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i have in stock(OEM parts)...............injector nozzle's and glow plugs.....
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Old January 11th, 2006, 08:36 PM
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@Pendy- I was thinking about fitting a Racor in the fuel line but I wasn't sure how the lift pump would cope - Have you added another/different pump or is it OK?
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Old January 11th, 2006, 09:19 PM
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As I noted, a sedimenter is optional on 90/110's. I would bet the Racor is a more "efficient" design so, if the LR one has no affect on the pump, I doubt the Racor would.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 09:43 PM
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Thank you Jim. I'll give you a jingle.
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Old January 15th, 2006, 11:42 PM
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The Raycore will not cause the lift pump any issues.

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@Pendy- I was thinking about fitting a Racor in the fuel line but I wasn't sure how the lift pump would cope - Have you added another/different pump or is it OK?
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Old January 22nd, 2006, 03:03 PM
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Talking Check my post to the Vendor section

Hello all
New toys available for the 2.8 TGV.

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Old February 15th, 2006, 11:28 AM
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Just thought I would throw an update in here.
I replaced my OEM ZF tranny with one out of a P38 RR (ZF 4HP24, I think). I am very happy with the difference, it shifts much smoother and stays in gear a bit longer. The 4HP22 was having a hard time trying to find a happy place between 3rd & 4th. If someone is looking to install this engine and a new/rebuilt automatic transmission, I would strongly reccomend the 4HP24.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 11:42 AM
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What about the cooling?
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Old February 15th, 2006, 12:08 PM
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I knew you were going to ask me about that. Seems that the radiator guy may have ordered the wrong size core. Another one is being made, this time just to be on the safe side it will be a dimpled 5 core instead of the dimpled 4 core. The truck ran cooler but still got a bit hot on the hwy while driving through the Mojave desert. I was driving about 75mph in about 75+ sunny weather with a very, very slight uphill grade, the gauge read about 215+. My concern was what's going to happen come summer time and it's 100+ outside and I'm driving up a 5 mile mountain pass. So I inquired about the radiator with my buddy, who went to the radiator shop and squeezed the guy for some answers. After looking through his catalog of cores, that's when they realized the wrong core was ordered.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 12:10 PM
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According to a real VDO gauge, cooling is still an issue. Seems my radiator guy shorted us a bit. Some of my initial hose routing plans were stalled and need to be implemented also. So the plan is to make another effort. The big intercooler is happy in there though and makes some additional tuning available. Maybe the new onboard air can help cool the heat. Or if he would turn off the esbar heater on long mountain passes.


The Esbar heater reminds me of the jet car Rover car made to race long ago. It winds up slowly and mimics an aircraft carrier flight deck if you are in an enclosed area. But hey these are Daves new toys I will let him tell you about them.

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Old February 15th, 2006, 12:15 PM
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oh don't act like you didn't like the heater . we were both standing there in awe as that thing sounded like the truck was going to take off like a Harrier Jet. Then when the blower inside the truck kicked on that was just the coolest thing, to bad it didn't blow hot air... yet Oh and the on board air... well shit need I say more? Who the hell wouldn't want a belt driven air supply? Now that is one of the coolest things on the truck, next to the diesel engine of course.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 12:17 PM
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David cooling the engine or transmission?

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What about the cooling?
Hello David
Here are the operating parameters of the engine.
This is from engineering in South America.
Please note the 2.8's heat rejection is 9KW higher than the 300TDI at 4000 RPM.
Running with a stock 300TDI rad can be trouble from the get go.
You may want to look at that cooling product I listed on the HS2800TDI user group.

Engine installation and operational limits.

Induction System
Inlet restriction (clean filter) 30 Mbar
Inlet restriction (dirty filter) 60 Mbar
Intercooler max.pressure drop 100 Mbar
Air needed @ 4000 RPM M3/min 10.0
Turbo outlet air temperature 374 F.
Manifold air inlet temperature 140 F.

Exhaust system

Exhaust back pressure limit 200 Mbar
Exhaust gas temperature 1112 F.
Exhaust gas flow @ 4000 RPM KG/min 13.5

Cooling system
Max. Continuous water temp.230F.
Max. Intermittent water temp.248F.
Max. Continuous oil temp. (gallery) 266F.
Max. Intermittent oil temp. (gallery)284F.
Max. Ambient temp. operation 113F.
Heat rejection to water ( 4000 rpm) 69KW
Water pump flow ( 4000 rpm) 34.34 Gal/minute
Max. Pressure 18 PSI
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Old February 15th, 2006, 12:45 PM
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What good will that heater do in 100+ temps??

Let me know on the Rad. Pendy, I just got to sending you the stuff yesterday. I've been slacking.

Thanks for the info Stephen, I run a recored tdi rad without the oil cooler. But alas, I like to bolt lot's of shit on my truck so it's too heavy for its own good with a tuned up fuel delivery.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 01:18 PM
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What is it weighing in at? The Disco in Vegas weighs in at 5300 LB using the V-8 rad no problems.

Will check with Terry on ambient air temp he is out in.Pretty hot there in the summer.
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Wow.. I did not know that the operating temps were that high but my truck climbs to 205 or 215 when gunnin' it on the highway sometimes.. I guess that is fine though as per below.
Cooling system
Max. Continuous water temp.230F.
Max. Intermittent water temp.248F.
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Old February 15th, 2006, 01:28 PM
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Just remember that the race car wasn't the only Rover Turbine....

http://www.rover.org.nz/images/roverBRM.jpg .... Rover BRM

or for the more sedate....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediaselector/c...bbram=1&news=1
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Old February 15th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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Yeah, I have a hard time buying it. The 2.8 service manual says max oopening of the thermostat happens at 216 degrees. Seems like a long way from 230+. Do you have this in writing from them?
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