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Old November 3rd, 2005, 08:30 PM
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I have looked into them as well, just out of curiosity. I am fairly sure that the system tha Craig runs is only for SVO. There is a difference between WVO and BioDiesel, Biodiesel must meet US government standards and is considered a recognized fuel. Home brewed WVO is not considered a fuel, yes your vehicle will run on it, just like moonshine will get you drunk. The WVO is interesting and very wonderful concept; however, the mess, process involved and required space to process it make it prohibitive for me to try. I instead am a huge fan of US approved BioDiesel, as I preached in a different thread.
I too belong to a Yahoo group
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/socalbiodiesel/
There are some very good discussions regarding all aspects of the process.
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:07 PM
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I hate to divert, but it is not too far off. Two fuel tanks? Can that be done on a Disco too?
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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:09 PM
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I like using biodiesel as well in our other car.
While VO is not currently considered a fuel, biodiesel wasn't considered a fuel until, when....1990? I can't remember but I didn't find some EPA info stating that in 1996 there were only 2 certified biodiesel manufactures in the US. Until that point, it was also mainly in the realm of the "moonshiners" as well.

Craig's system is VO. As for the space and process involved, all you need is 3'x3' in the garage to process 30-40 gallons with a hand pump, so it's pretty simple. Yes, there is some mess, but to me that's potentially better than playing with methanol. I do like that you can store biodiesel or VO at home and even underground without special permitting.

I think they both have a place and personally like that WVO or SVO don't need the additional process of caustics like lye, nor does it require extra energy to produce.

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Old November 3rd, 2005, 09:10 PM
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What's wrong with that?

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Home brewed WVO is not considered a fuel, yes your vehicle will run on it, just like moonshine will get you drunk.

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Old November 5th, 2005, 07:10 PM
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Torque converter - Can't get it back in.

I have another half inch, but it won't go. I have turned it around 100 times and still nothing.

Is it possible I damaged the inside where the input shaft goes when I remove it? It came out pretty easy and I didn't drop it. Is this mis-alignment of the interior parts common when removing.

I drained most of the fluid out and then took a good look inside. Everthing looks good, there are two separatw "wheels" inside that freeling move back and forth indepedently of eachother in the plane perpendicular to the torque converter's axis.

The interediate plate/oil pump assembly by itself (without the transmission input shaft) easily fits "onto" the torque converter (I took everything apart again to try this).

Thanks for any help in this matter. THis is the only obstacle in the way of fitting the HS2.8L.
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Old November 7th, 2005, 12:44 PM
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Torque converter is in, and so is the engine!

Yee Haw!I had to wobble it around with a little more authority than before. That thing is heavy when it has to be inserted while the Transmission is horizontal.
The HS2.9L adater plate is now bolted to the bell housing. I now have to fit the drive plate to the torque converter. With the adapter plate provided in my kit, it is at the starter motor opening that the drive plate and torque converter holes are aligned and where the 4 bolts are placed through one at a time. This is because this adapter plate extends down to bottome of the bell housing where the detacheble cover usually is.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 09:12 PM
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Woo-Hoo!

I started the engine this past weekend! The funny thing is that it kept on running after turned off the ignition switch. I by-passed the fuel pump relay when I re-wired the fuel pump curcuit- oops. It felt a little odd stepping out of the truck with the key in my hand and the engine still running. I had to disconnect the plug that has the engine loom (I think that is what it is called).

Regardless, the engine starts up immediately and runs very nice.
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Old December 22nd, 2005, 09:34 PM
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Good to hear Michael!

I'm about 2 month from starting my install. David at M&D has shipped the engine and I'm waiting both for it to arrive and for my garage/house to be finished.

In the mean time, I'm driving a Suburban 6.5L diesel on biodiesel. It's no Rover, meaning the electronics work right. :-)

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Old December 23rd, 2005, 04:29 AM
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mine too is on the way

My 2.8 from M&D is in route. Going to have the whole powertrain taken care of at teh same time (transfer case for 33s and transmission looked at. Can't wait to get back to ths States and drive it when it is done.....
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Old December 23rd, 2005, 08:13 PM
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You guys are going to love the finished look.

it is very factory. I didn't even have to drill anything. All the holes I needed where already in the body shell, but covered with a round sticker.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 09:30 AM
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Check Your Oil Level!

I didn't, and overfilled the engine by accident as there was already oil in the sump when I filled it for the first time, but below where the dipstic can see it.

Result: I had the "runaway diesel" phenomenom with engine oil happen during first road test after fitting engine. I am not sure if engine is blown yet. I do know injectors were damaged or clogged as they do not spray fuel.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 10:14 AM
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what a catastrophe! Hope it's not too bad, good luck with it.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 10:22 AM
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You mean it was imported with oil in it? I thought that was illegal - or at least not done.
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Old January 5th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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Yes, there was oil in the sump. After the incident, I checked the dipstick and it was about 3" over the max line. I sucked out 2.5 (yes 2 and one half) liters of oil to get it down between the min and max. Therefor there about 2.5 liters in there as I put 6.5 liters myself.

I know it is illegal to ship by air with oil, I am not sure about sea.

Anyways, I just wanted to let you guys know that checking the oil is very imortant with this, and all diesel engines. I just learned that myself!
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Old January 9th, 2006, 12:07 PM
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Every one of these engines I have had my hands on had oil in it. And it is break in oil so it is very light and hard to see. Thing is they are brazing on a dipstick tube adapter and either draining and refilling the engine. Or tipping it on its side. So maybe they should just leave the oil out of it. Or at least label it either way.

Unfortunatly you should have been more careful adding oil, as I am sure you are aware.

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

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Old January 9th, 2006, 01:39 PM
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What do people recommend for fitting a sedimenter. As far as brand, part # and location on a 90?
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Old January 10th, 2006, 12:09 PM
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I will try to take a picture today and post up my sedimentor solution.

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Old January 10th, 2006, 02:20 PM
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It is an option on 90/110's, See pics below.

But I am sure a non-LR part will do.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 08:46 AM
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Regarding the break in oil: Should it be drained out when the end-user first runs an engine, or is it to be mixed with the newly added oil.

So far, I know that the injector nozzles and glow plugs are damaged beyond repair.

Also, on Ebay, there is a compression test kit that supposedly has an M10x1 glow plug adapter for the HS2.8L. Do a diesel compression search and it is the MTD one.
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Old January 11th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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my owners manual says first oil change at 15,000 kms...(unless the fuel you are using has a sulpher index of more than 1%, then you should be changing your oil @ 7500 kms).....i did not get this manual from the place i bought my engine from but i felt it was important to know before i started my engine so i found one just to stop this sort of thing from happening....hope your engine is not to badly damaged....
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