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Old December 19th, 2003, 12:21 AM
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Interceptor 5.2

** Note from Admin: This thread started as a Classified that turned into a technical discussion and has been copied here to this section to continue. The original classified posting still is in the For Sale - Parts section should you have an interest. **

I am going to sale my Interceptor 5.2. I am going to convert to a HS 2.8TGV. (I already have it...it's a beauty) I realize that most people on this site would rather spend their money to go my direction---diesel, but on the chance that you want to spend some money and go with a LR engine that puts out 340hp/360lbs torque then I have the set up for you. The engine/ancillaries, exhaust, Upgraded large bore plenum, GEMS system upgrade, and Carbon Fiber intake only have 12k miles. The LT230 and transmission have 43k on them. I would like to sale this as a complete setup. Below is a list of cost of each item. Engine and other items where installed by ECR ( http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Bailey.html ) All of this is still installed in my truck in case you want a test drive. But in the next few months or so it will be sitting on a crate in the corner.

Upgraded large bore plenum $1650.00, GEMS system upgrade $1875.00, Upgrade to Carbon Fiber intake $225.00, Long Block 5.2 $13500.00, NRP Complete Exhaust $1300.00, LT230 $1550.00, Transmission $1995.00 and Ancillaries/ETC $1650.00 for a grand total of $23745.00 I will take 11k for all of it. This engine will fit into other Rovers. Please pass this around...I really need the money to continue on with my diesel conversion. Shoot me an email for any question.

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Old December 19th, 2003, 01:18 PM
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Why?

Jeromy, I gotta ask.
It sounds like such a great motor with excellent performance, and especially after all the expense to put it in, why take it out? I'm not questioning your personal judgment, just simply curious and truly interested in your opinion based on your experience, so I can have some more information when I have to make the decision to replace my engine (hopefully a long way off).
I'm running a supercharged 4.0 and would still like more power & torque. When my engine goes, I plan to replace it with a supercharged 4.2, built 4.6 or a 5.2 unless I decide to take it to the UK when we move, in that case I'll swap in a TDI solely based on the price of petrol there.
Hella nice rig by the way.
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Old December 20th, 2003, 12:43 AM
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Well that is a good question and it is a wonderful engine, but I did not put it in. The previous owner did. I bought the truck with it already installed with the intent of taking it out and swapping it to a diesel. I figured that I could get enough money from the engine to do the swap. The engine runs great and on a recent trip of over 800 miles returned a little better than 15mpg...pretty much unheard of for a NAS 90, plus I had plenty of power to take all the hills...never got below 75. This truck will easily do that and more. I have no idea of "how fast it is" but I can tell you that I can easily smoke a New Dodge truck with a 360 in it...no much of a race, but way better than my other d90 would do.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 12:29 AM
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0-60 time would be very interesting.

On all of ECR's pages and on all the tens of thousands spent, there's not a single figure cited.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 01:52 AM
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As stated on the RPi Engineering site by Mike ( The 4.6 Stage III we put into the 1995 NAS Defender 90 Station Wagon now has plenty of break-in miles on it, and we took it to the track today. Stock 3.9 in this 90 ran 12.5 seconds 0-60 The 4.6 ran a best time of 7.78 seconds 0-60 this morning! Wow! http://www.rpiv8.com/comments-engine.htm ) So I would imagine it would be better than that.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 02:30 AM
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That's an impressive figure! Wow, the 5.2 must be incredible.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 02:39 AM
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Stock 3.9 in 12!

That is way off unless it is an auto 4.0. G-tech says I can do 8.5 in my stock 3.9 and second is really slow (of course I think I can drive a bit ).

I saw a published figure of 8.8 for a 5 speed v8 disco.

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Old December 23rd, 2003, 02:40 AM
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Of course the BMW does it 2 seconds quicker
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12 sec. I think i also differ.
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Well one thing that I know for sure-- what ever it is it is way faster than any stock 3.9. I had a 95 SW and and my uncle and I race from the light....well let just say absolutely no comparison. I had already made it to the next light and completely stopped before he even got close.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 11:38 AM
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D90 owners constantly amaze me. 24K for an engine, then they pull it out to put in a little 150 hp diesel with less torque that you cant get parts for.

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Old December 23rd, 2003, 12:53 PM
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You guys clearly have no idea how fast your D-90's are. It is impossible to get 8 second times from a stock D-90. I have driven all kinds of fast cars,and I can tell you that Jeromy's truck is probably faster then anyones on this site. Peter Reed has a truck that is almost as fast. It was purchased from myself and Jeromy. And it is not quite as fast as the 5.2. So you may not be interested in the engine,but I assure you ,it is faster then any stock 90. It will beat the pants off of mine.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 01:41 PM
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You guys clearly have no idea what a D-90 is supposed to be used for. If you want a fast car. Buy a fast car, if you want a 4-wheeler buy a Defender. As far as the Diesel goes, it slaps the gas models around OFFROAD like a $2 whore. If all that matters is how fast they jump a green light, sell it and get something else. lrnasd90: you are going to LOVE that 2.8.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 02:14 PM
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Must be why you see so many diesels in all the competitive 4wd events . . . Hell I drive a diesel rover every day and wheel it. Its over-rated, expensive, underpowered (140 hp/250 ft/lbs) sucks in the mud, only ok on rocks, loud, slow, oily, smelly, smokey and generally unpleasent. Not sure why I like it honestly, it just isnt that great and I donno what all the fuss is about.
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What weve got here is a difference in opinion. I could not be happier and the engine for rock-crawling is awesome. Mine is tuned over 140 and it is reletively easy to get 200bhp out of them. The thing is, its totally different than gas. You own one, you should know what I mean. It comes stock with 111 bhp and in a gas model that wouldn't even get the truck rolling but that thing took me 80 mph with no trouble at all. Mark my words, in the next couple years you are going to start seeing a major influx of diesels in cal roc and others. Cummings scorpion was one of the first to get it. In 4 low I can walk next to the truck while it idles up massive grades. People still 4-wheel in mud? Seriously, you are going to need different equipement for different terrain. BUT, the diesel kicks the gas ROVER engines all around the playground!
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 02:29 PM
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Thank You ,David. I have always said people drive Rovers for the wrong reasons. Diesel engines never run hot,never die from electrical problems,get 3 times the mileage,and run for twice as long. How many postings have you seen from the diesel guys ,crying because their diesel won't crank for some mysterious reason?
Defenders were never intended to go fast. Making one go fast is asinine. It is still a 4X4,use it for that and it will excel,try to make it into something else and it will always be lacking.
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It's a shame people have turned a honest 'for sale' advertisement into a debate about gas vs. diesel (HP vs. torque). Let the guy sell the engine for gods sake!

Edit: CVC, thanks for moving this portion of it. Perfect administration as always.
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No problem... Figured it was a good thread but as you pointed out, it was a shame it was piling onto Jeromy's listing.

Quick copy and a few fast edits and deleting, and everything is motoring along again.
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Old December 23rd, 2003, 07:17 PM
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In response to Ike Goss about it being crazy to spend 24k on an engine and then yank it out and install a diesel...I agree, but I myself did not put the engine in the truck and I paid no more for the truck because of it being there.

What kind of diesel are you running?

I am really looking forward to be able to drive more than 165 miles on a tank of fuel. And the off road reliability seems to be way better with a diesel. Besides all of the ROW spec D90s only come with diesel...unless they are some kind of special edition. Meaning to me that D90 where designed for and around a diesel power plant.

Donít get me wrong it is very fun to drive around 360hp, but I really donít think it very useful except around town. And I am spending all of my money to make it better off road. So I think that it will suit me better.
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I "Jeromy" lrnasd90 post the above...Kris was just logged into my computer...woops
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