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Old January 10th, 2008, 12:53 PM
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300tdi and, I presume, 2.8 TGV have mechanical cam-driven lift pumps on the right side of the block below the air filter.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 02:07 PM
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I think the stock sedimentor is further forward Mike. I got guys in Canada running it in that location where I installed it. No issues yet. Seems to be an area that stays fairly clean on the truck.
Its always a prefilter/sedimentor and water trap. I always use the stock filter as well. On a 2.8l you need it for the priming button. You can bleed an installed dry filter with that priming pump.
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I think the stock sedimentor is further forward
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Factory unit location.

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Ugh, factory location looks like it would pick up a lot of crap. I should have known ECR would have posted a warning on it . . . .
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Old January 10th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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Thanks for the picture. Those sedimentor gaurds are a pain to work with.

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Reminds me of the "box" that the fuel pump on Janey lives in.
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Old January 10th, 2008, 05:35 PM
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Janey's is a little further forward on the frame rail, and looks similar (but not as pretty). Still works fine though

I do need to buy a spare pump in case that dies - it's the only bit of electrics she depends on outside of the distributor.

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Old January 10th, 2008, 05:47 PM
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I've got a used one for you Charles. Let me know.
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Yeah that'll work, thanks! Send me an email pls.

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"Still works fine though "

Glad to hear Mike's fix in Iowa is still holding. The wires got pretty nasty and lost contact so he did something.
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I was referring to the cover, but the pump works too I did have to remove the pump, and clean the connections and the points where the bolts met the frame to get a good ground though. I removed the bottom portion of the pump to clean it out (expected an air filter but it was full of fuel too) - got a bunch of crap out of it. Sadly I didn't take any pictures.

I had to run a dedicated ground to it to get home though - remember it stopped working before I got out of town .

BTW, I'm close to having put 2K miles on her now. I need to scrounge up my gas receipts and see what the fuel mileage has been.

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Another take on it. We use a 300tdi tank and the genuine viton full hose set. No pipes at all. If we aren't using the factory hoses we use all USCG approved flex line, stem to stern. If its good enough for the bilge, then it should be fine on the Rover.The "filter" in the wheel well is a really just a sediment cyclone and never needs to be replaced and as it is all stainless, aluminum and plastic and if you don't use the silly factory sheetmetal "guard" there is nothong to rust (we galvanize it). Then we run a Racor or standard filter depending on owner preference.
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Looks nice.

My customers want the diesel, but want to save as much money as possible, so we use as many of the existing perfectly good NAS parts as possible to keep the costs down beacuse with a perfectly good NAS tank, slight modification of the existing pump and all there is no need for the additional cost. IMO.
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Another take on it. We use a 300tdi tank and the genuine viton full hose set.
By genuine, you mean the factory genuine LR hoses are viton?
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Looks nice.

My customers want the diesel, but want to save as much money as possible, so we use as many of the existing perfectly good NAS parts as possible to keep the costs down beacuse with a perfectly good NAS tank, slight modification of the existing pump and all there is no need for the additional cost. IMO.
Thanks. We also normally use as much of the original truck as possible. Just offering another take on it all.

This job used a Genuine parts Rover Tdi frame and the NAS tank does not fit....or even close. Customer wanted to build with as many Genuine Tdi parts as possible. In reality the tank and all fuel associated parts would only add up to about 1 of the total job cost...but this is not I suppose the average job and I wouldn't be arguing with the customer about spending his money to make what is essentially "factory correct".

It is shocking the amount of time and $$ it takes to turn a perfectly good NAS spec Defender into something that in the rest of the world would be considered glorified farm equipment

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By genuine, you mean the factory genuine LR hoses are viton?
It is my understanding that the factory hoses from the rear tank 300 Tdi are viton lined. Why I think this I do not know...or should say cannot remember. I do know that 100% biodiesel and / or SVO has no ill effect on them, which does not mean they are Viton.

I will, when back at the shop, dig a little deeper and get the actual spec on these.
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I have one of those (in that picture) on my NAS 300tdi.

Forgive my ignorance, I know you explained it earlier in the thread but, what exactly is in that box?
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My 300tdi has 100K+ on it now. I left the gas filter in place. When it started getting "plugged-up", the engine would lose power under acceleration. That filter lasted at least 80K miles before it became an issue. When I changed it out, the lack of acceleration problem went away. No other issues noted by leaving the gas line filter in place.

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