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Old May 23rd, 2006, 11:10 PM
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Ih Ngd 3.0e

http://www.nav-international.com.br/...?Idioma=2&Id=1

Compared to HS 2.8:

- 33% more power
- slightly more torque but constant over wider rmp range (1500-2200)
- same weight
- EPA07 certified

So, looks pretty good so far.

Now to find some applications...
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Old May 23rd, 2006, 11:24 PM
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Computer controlled right?
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Old May 24th, 2006, 12:17 AM
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Yes, but I don't mind much as my 110 isn't an offroader and I don't plan on visiting any third world countries.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 01:13 AM
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I'd just be curious to know what is required to make everything work. It'd be neat if a total package was available, otherwise you might be ordering an OEM body harness out of some other vehicle to adapt for the rover. An interesting issue to pursue though.
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Old May 24th, 2006, 10:24 AM
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I wonder why Land Rover doesn't put something like this in new North American vehicles, meeting 2007 regs and all. Perfect!
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Old May 24th, 2006, 05:16 PM
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Yeah, I've been looking at that engine ever since I lived in Brazil over 3 years ago. It's a perfect little engine in IMO, variable turbine geometry turbocharger, common rail, and loads of other technical goodies. The only problem is that there are only two ECU's that will work with it, the ECU from a Troller or the ECU from a Ford Ranger that came with the engine in it (only sold down in South America). I have tried contacting both companies and niether will part with a spare ECU for me to play with because I'm not down there. I don't even know yet if it would be worth messing with if I could get one. Either way, I heard a rumor that they're going to put this engine in some delivery trucks here in the US next year, so that'll help us gets some parts. I just don't want to wait though!
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Old May 26th, 2006, 06:29 AM
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I think the only problems with this little gem are that it will require a somewhat stronger drivetrain than normally found in a Rover, someone will have to come up with an adaptor or two and there is an issue with the electronic controls being vehicle specific (which is the biggest problem at this point) It is EPA compliant but the EPA still has to certify it.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:22 AM
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Yep, the drivetrain is one of the biggest problems for sure. M&D Engineering have a de-tuned version of it that they are putting into a Discovery right now (I think they actually have a couple from what I heard). As far as I can tell, it is de-tuned to the drivetrain limits, so it is basically the most engine you can get for the current drivetrain. The EPA will have it certified by next year.
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Old May 26th, 2006, 09:59 AM
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Stephen Cahill notes that it's $7500-$8000 wholesale for just the motor - no controls.

I'm out!
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