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Old August 26th, 2014, 09:46 PM
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Ignition switch help

The ignition switch on my NAS 90 failed (I think). I've managed to remove the old switch and am trying to replace it with a new one - but I can't seem to get the switch far enough back into the ignition housing to be able to reinsert the two small screws that secure the switch. Any suggestions?
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Old August 26th, 2014, 10:25 PM
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Most likely there's an alignment issue with the part in the center, it only aligns one way with the switch, and the swich only goes into the lock housing one way.

Also a small piece can come out with the old switch (in the center of the lock housing). If it does you'll have to get it back in there, and timed correctly, to mate up with the new switch receptacle.

Remover key from ign to begin with, then make sure the new switch is in the 'off' position and that center thing in the lock housing is timed right to mate up with switch center part.
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Old August 26th, 2014, 11:03 PM
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Not sure how I can help but just replaced the column lock, switch and all & as Viton says all these little pieces in the lock housing need to be lined up. Not difficult, just the simple alignment that keeps it from setting in there just right. Once lined up up it all seemed to go in there just right. Had to do it over several times. Keep trying, you'll know when it's all lined up. Sorry wasn't much help but I had someone that kept coaching me along when I was replacing mine.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 08:11 AM
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Ignition switch help

I must have spent an hour playing with it - I can get the switch "clocked" so that it sits in the hosting and engages properly, but no matter what I do, it's 1/8" or so too far out for the screw to be able to thread in. I've played with the key in the ignition to see if that helps, to no avail. Bizarre!

@Viton - How do I confirm that new switch is in the off position?
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Old August 27th, 2014, 01:38 PM
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How do I confirm that new switch is in the off position?
When looking at the face turn the switch left, counter clockwise, (use a blade screw driver) as if turning the key off. It should stop turning at that point.
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Old August 27th, 2014, 08:28 PM
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That helped, thanks a million!

Switch is in, but I'm not so sure the diesel wiring diagram (the only one I could find) is the same as the NAS. Can someone confirm where the brown , white, white/orange and white:red wires connect. (Odd that there are five terminals, but four wires).
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Two of the terminals are actually connected by the bottom. Those terminals are actually a "U" shaped piece of brass metal.
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Bump - does anyone have an NAS ignition switch wiring diagram?
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you want which wire goes on which spade ? I have a hand drawn diagram I keep in my toolbox if that will help you.
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you want which wire goes on which spade ? I have a hand drawn diagram I keep in my toolbox if that will help you.
That would be awesome - I found another diagram, here's what it shows:

Its complicated to refer to the left or the right side of the switch, so I'll call the side with 2 spades the "passenger side" and the side with three spades the "driver's side."

- Brown. Connects to the bottom spade on the passenger side; the upper spade is not connected
- White/Orange. Connects to the upper spade on the driver's side
- White. Connects to the middle spade on the driver's side
- White/Red. Connects to the lower space on the driver's side
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its best to refer to the positions on the switch by their positions on a clock face. The diagram I have has two unused spades (may have been a diesel switch). Generally Rover uses the same color coded wires for the same purposes throughout the different models.
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Roger that ...

Here's what I found, can anyone confirm? My poor Rover needs exercise!

- Brown. Connects at 8:00

- White/Orange. Connects at 2:00

- White. Connects at 3:00

- White/Red. Connects at 4:00

- Empty spade at 10:00
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My diagram as drawn is a bit different, but seems to be largely similar. There are 7 spades on the switch

11:00 Brown

12:00 empty

1:00 large white

3:30 empty

5:30 Brown, Brown, red white trace

8:00 brown red

9:00 brown yellow white
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I just jotted down these notes last week when I was troubleshooting something else, from the perspective of the driver seat ('94 NAS). Hope it helps:

Top left facing me: Orange/White
Top right facing away: White
Bottom left facing me: Red/White
Bottom right facing away: Brown
Empty slot in middle, facing away
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I just jotted down these notes last week when I was troubleshooting something else, from the perspective of the driver seat ('94 NAS). Hope it helps: Top left facing me: Orange/White Top right facing away: White Bottom left facing me: Red/White Bottom right facing away: Brown Empty slot in middle, facing away

This is how mine is wired
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