hub and stub compatibility - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old May 3rd, 2006, 09:56 PM
KevinNY's Avatar
KevinNY
Status: Offline
Kevin Buckley
1973 coiler
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Guilderland,NY
Posts: 1,460
hub and stub compatibility

I purchased stubs and hubs,and GBR half shafts off a '96 Disco being parted in order to replace my '89 RR rear stubs so that I can use 1.25" 24 spline axless. The old 10 spline rangies apparently having just a smidge too small a ID to fit the beefier axles through the stubs. Since I just recently my hubs with all new bearings seals and rotors I'd like to use them instead of doing it again to the new hubs. Will my '89 hubs slip right onto the newer stubs or will there be issues with axles length or different OD of the stub? I have only located 1 part number for rear hubs so far but I thought I'd ask here as many have already gotten rid of old 10 spline RR axles before me.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old May 3rd, 2006, 10:10 PM
Nomar's Avatar
Nomar
Status: Offline
Jeff B
RR HNTR,RR LWB Tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Central,Virginia
Posts: 4,292
Registry
I put d-90 3rds in my 91 RR and ran those 24 splines for 5 months (gently) before upgrading

to HD stuff. Not sure what the difference in axle length is though. Didnt change the stubs(until much later when I broke D/S CV & tore up the stub with it...
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old May 3rd, 2006, 11:07 PM
headdamage's Avatar
headdamage
Status: Offline
Andrew
exmod 90 2.5na and a 93/RRC 200tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Yellowknife NWT
Posts: 227
If the 89 RR is the same as my 87 RR the Disco hubs will have to be used with the Disco spindles because the earlier RR's have a wider wheel bearing spacing.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old May 4th, 2006, 07:58 AM
JackW's Avatar
JackW
Status: Online
Jack Walter
1966 109 SW Diesel
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Roswell, GA, USA
Posts: 931
The axle lengths are slightly different so you have to use the Disco hubs and stubs with the 24 spline axles. I upgraded my 10-spline 91 Range Rover Hunter to later 24 spline axles and had to switch them over. You can carefully tap the new bearing races out of your old hubs and reuse the bearings in the Disco Hubs - they are the same size. The seals should be replaced - the Disco type are different anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old May 4th, 2006, 08:40 AM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
I will be attempting to do this also. So I am now guessing that my stock 24 spline D-90 stuff will not fit in a classic axle? Is it the stub axle or the hub that is different? OR both?
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old May 4th, 2006, 09:08 AM
KevinNY's Avatar
KevinNY
Status: Offline
Kevin Buckley
1973 coiler
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Guilderland,NY
Posts: 1,460
I'm gonna use the new hubs, just clean and repack and do new seals.

Randy,

The classics, pre 24 spline, have an I.D. that is too small to fit 1.25" 24 spline axles. You have to either have them bored out a little or get newer stubs.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old May 4th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Mike Hippert's Avatar
Mike Hippert
Status: Offline
D-90Slut/Stalker,SNLPres
94 D-90 Grinding Rover
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester NH USA
Posts: 4,789
Hey Randy, I have the front axles that were in Pete's Classic if they would help?
__________________
Don't forget to
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
first then ask questions later! The loose nut behind the wheel
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old May 4th, 2006, 10:18 AM
KevinNY's Avatar
KevinNY
Status: Offline
Kevin Buckley
1973 coiler
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Guilderland,NY
Posts: 1,460
Randy,


I will have 2 sets of 10 spline RR rear axles and the hubs and stubs axles if you need them, great for the series coiler if you are not going to lock the rear.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old May 4th, 2006, 12:10 PM
JackW's Avatar
JackW
Status: Online
Jack Walter
1966 109 SW Diesel
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Roswell, GA, USA
Posts: 931
The stubs are about 3/8" shorter on the 24 spline setup - the corresponding hubs have to be used to make the bearing locations match up.

If you use the 24 spline axles in the 10 spline hubs the splines on the inner end of the axle won't fully engage in the spider gears - this will cause early failure and bad noises. Both hubs use the same bearings but there are some differences in the hub seals.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old May 5th, 2006, 07:30 AM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
I have a stock axle but wanted to instal my stock 24 spline stuff from my D-90. I guess I cant do this with out new stubs and hubs then correct??? Where did you find this stuff?

What about the front axle? Can the stock d-90 cv's and shafts be installed in the front?
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old May 5th, 2006, 08:11 AM
KevinNY's Avatar
KevinNY
Status: Offline
Kevin Buckley
1973 coiler
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Guilderland,NY
Posts: 1,460
What year Range Rover stuff are you using? If came with 24 spline stuff originally then you are OK. The 10 spline rears are 1.1".
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old May 5th, 2006, 02:34 PM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
Kevin, I have to find out what year they are off of? I will let you know..
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old May 6th, 2006, 07:05 AM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
Axles are from a 91 Rangie. And what about the front?

Randy
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old May 6th, 2006, 11:26 AM
evilfij's Avatar
evilfij
Status: Offline
evilfij
I have never seen a rover in person
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on the internet
Posts: 14,688
My understanding was ABS hubs, even 10 spline, are fine to convert to 24 spline but non-abs you need new hubs. YMMV
__________________
*not legal advice*
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old May 22nd, 2006, 03:43 PM
TDI Guy's Avatar
TDI Guy
Status: Offline
Randy
2015 LR4
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,573
Registry
Ron, I think you are correct. I measured the half shafts of the 91 and the stock d-90 stuff and they are the same.. THe 91's did have ABS by the way
__________________
Legend in My Own Mind.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rear disc brake options kellymoe Defender Technical Discussions 44 April 9th, 2008 09:34 AM
'Wet' hub question D90user Defender Technical Discussions 1 August 27th, 2007 07:05 PM
Rear stub axel threads worn D90user Defender Technical Discussions 1 October 15th, 2006 10:39 PM
Which direction to install rear outer hub seal? cgalpin Defender Technical Discussions 16 September 23rd, 2005 12:06 AM
GBR heavy duty drive flanges jorge Defender Technical Discussions 2 February 29th, 2004 11:51 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:42 PM.


Copyright