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Old March 17th, 2012, 10:56 AM
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How to measure the exact lift ?

Just fitted set of Koni HT Raid Dampers and OME springs 2766 front and 2754 rear. The specs state a 3" lift but I am told it is closer to 2". Does anyone have a measurement say from the ground to the body to determine the true lift ?. I am trying to figure out if a need castor corrections arms and if I need a 3 or 6 degree angle. The old suspension was so bad it sat very low so the lift looks very high at present
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Old March 17th, 2012, 11:21 AM
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with a 2 to 3 inch lift you are not going to need castor correctors, unfurtunately two out of three of my classics have lifts on them the other has air susp.soI cannot give you a height.
one sports an rte 2 inch, the other an ome 2inch heavy duty with 2 inch pucks, both are nearly if not over 10 yrs old so im sure they have sagged... never had major steering issues, at most panhard bushings wear out at an accelerated rate of every 2 yrs.
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Old March 17th, 2012, 02:43 PM
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Here is a pic if it helps anyone
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Are the diff pinions pointing toward the transfer case or are they parallel with the transfer case outputs?

Nice pic. Rather idyllic agricultural motif.
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From that picture, i'd say if anything, the front is a little too high (in comparison to the back)
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Are the diff pinions pointing toward the transfer case or are they parallel with the transfer case outputs?

Nice pic. Rather idyllic agricultural motif.
Not quite sure what you mean could you give more details, thanks.
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In addition to changing the steering geometry, lifts also rotate the axle. When the axle rotates are enough, the pinion also rotates upward such that the u joints rotate out of synch and create bad vibes. Check out Tom Woods drive shafts:

http://www.4xshaft.com/
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What is the measurement from the center of the wheels center cap to the bottom of the wheel arch, flair? My 110 with factory springs sits lower in the front but it does have HD springs on the rear. What rear axle do you have? What engine do you have?
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Old March 19th, 2012, 06:26 PM
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What is the measurement from the center of the wheels center cap to the bottom of the wheel arch, flair? My 110 with factory springs sits lower in the front but it does have HD springs on the rear. What rear axle do you have? What engine do you have?
38 1/2" all round to the bottom of the wheel arch flair. Running 285/75 Mud Terrains on Wolfs with a 200tdi, winch to go on shortly . Spoke to Devon 4x4 they said NOT to fit castor correction radius arms on the front but to fit the offset ones on the rear.
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38 1/2" all round to the bottom of the wheel arch flair. Running 285/75 Mud Terrains on Wolfs with a 200tdi, winch to go on shortly . Spoke to Devon 4x4 they said NOT to fit castor correction radius arms on the front but to fit the offset ones on the rear.
Looking at the pics and your 38.5" measurement I'd say that you have a 3" right now. I'm about an inch lower that that with 285 SSR's which I believe run taller than the KM2's you have. But bear in mind if that is with brand new springs and just installed it will probably come down some.

But do like MC22958 said go from the center of the axle to your fender flare - that takes out what size tire/psi you have.
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On my 110 V-8 with stock front springs it is 18.5 inches front, and 21" on the rear with extra load factory springs. This is a measurement from the center of the axle to the bottom of the flair. The truck has 265/75-16 tires so a total measurement wouldn't help you. On the 300 Tdi, (diesels are heaver than the V-8), D90 I have 3" progressive RTE springs on the front and RTE 2" HD springs on the rear, running 285/75-16 SSR tires. The total measurement off pavement to the flair is around 38" on all four.
I would suspect that you have about a 2" lift. I have found that with a 2" lift you will not have to do anything else other than possibly needing a double cardan drive shaft on the front to take away any vibration you may have.
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22 inches front and rear from the center of the wheel the bottom of the wheel arch flare.
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I finally got around to measuring mine. A little all over the place:

21.5" LR
20.5" LF
21.0" RF
21.25" RR
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You need a winch and bumper to level it out.
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