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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:38 PM
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How much is too much? Rust

Hoping you gents can help me out. I recently found a 1998 Defender 110, 300tdi Imported from Germany into Canada and has pretty much been sitting for the last 2 years. I know that sitting is not good. Issue is the photos from 2 years back look good with minimal oxidation/rust issues. After viewing the truck I've found a bunch of concerns. I was hoping the find a truck that only required a frame cleaning/rust sealer/topical oil/wax application. I'm not interested in a frame replacement.
The rear bumper crossmember now has a flakey rust spot on the right side that I'm sure is a hole. The cross member that you would bolt up a bumper. The under carriage also has developed rust. I'm not sure of the rate of this but is concerning.
Does this look like a elbow grease type of job or am I into a frame replacement situation should I purchase this vehicle?
Drove really nice but owner couldn't produce and paperwork on maintenance history and carproof didn't have anything as it's never been registered or plated as yet. Only ownership. The motor had some concerns but that's another topic. I'll post some pictures but might have to do so in multiple posted.
I'd appreciate any insight.

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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:39 PM
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:43 PM
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:45 PM
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:47 PM
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Looks like surface rust to me. Check the outriggers first

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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:50 PM
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:52 PM
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Rear bumper cross member. Right side has the hole. Was thinking a sand blast, weld filler and grind situation.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:56 PM
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Old August 1st, 2016, 08:57 PM
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Rear corner of cab. Steel corner trim needs replacing. Same on both side of rear.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:02 PM
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Floor drivers side. Looks like surface and seems solid. Wasn't sure if this what the bulkhead area that is often mentioned.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:05 PM
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Door lower, some small soft spots.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:06 PM
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Looks like surface rust to me. Check the outriggers first

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My apologies, what would the outriggers be?
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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:16 PM
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Another rear. Right side has some wrinkles along the lower panel above the check plate. I'd assume prior minor impact or a sign of something else?
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My apologies, what would the outriggers be?
Thanks for the reply.
Behind front wheels arch, out rigger s are the metal support components for the body on each side.
They are mud traps.

Just look into the front wheel arch facing the rear of the defender you will see them.
Also nearby there is a gap where you can check the firewall/bulkhead. You won't be able to check the cabin side but surely the engine side.
Overall I think she looks good

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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:19 PM
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Another lower door.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 09:33 PM
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Lower body panel. Pretty much the same in both sides of the truck.
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Front lower body behind wheels
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Behind front wheels arch, out rigger s are the metal support components for the body on each side.
They are mud traps.

Just look into the front wheel arch facing the rear of the defender you will see them.
Also nearby there is a gap where you can check the firewall/bulkhead. You won't be able to check the cabin side but surely the engine side.
Overall I think she looks good

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I had to fly out to see it.. I did also look from the engine bay side at the bulkhead from above. It looked clean. Would the area of concern be visible from that angle?

------ Follow up post added August 1st, 2016 08:56 PM ------

On another note.. Is it common to have some drive line slap?. When releasing the clutch there seemed to be a dumping shutter in the driveline when feathering in the shift at the initial engagement. Wasn't sure if it was just the Defenders unique suspension system flex.
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Old August 1st, 2016, 10:02 PM
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Shifter fork is said to have been replaced recently
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