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Old August 23rd, 2012, 02:58 PM
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How far do you need to move the mounts to swap in a 300tdi?

At work, I've been tasked with swapping the V8 (I believe a carb'd 3.5L) out of a customer's 110, and installing a 300tdi. I heard a rumor somewhere that there were templates provided by LR to properly relocate the engine (and tranny mounts?) when doing one of these swaps. I'm been given no information, just a pallet of parts and a truck. Yippee. Any helpful words of advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 03:19 PM
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i think if you do a search you'll find someone was selling home made tdi mount templates in the past, but not sure if 200 or 300
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 03:25 PM
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Contact Pendy. He has M&D style mounts and will loan out a jig for welding.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 03:27 PM
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Measure twice, weld once!
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 05:00 PM
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does that mean if I measure six times I weld three?

Real answer, if you have the 300tdi transmission crossmember, it should just be a matter of bolting everything up to that and then tacking the mounts in. There is a bunch of info online for the mount location, you don't need the templates (though I guess they would help)






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Old August 23rd, 2012, 06:47 PM
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Thanks. I do believe there was a crossmember in all that junk, so I'll bolt everything together and then weld it up. I wasn't sure if the crossmember was "bolt in" or if it was going to require me to drill new holes.
Out of curiosity, is the location of the mounts the same for a 200 and 300?
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 09:18 PM
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The crossmember should bolt right up.
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Old August 23rd, 2012, 10:01 PM
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10 years ago when I removed my V8 mounts, I don't remember them looking anything like the mounts for the tdi. Better check into this before you assume they're the same configuration
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Mounts for 200 and 300 are very different. Once you have the 300tdi crossmember, it should be easy as 300tdi mounts are basically like pieces of angle iron and are perpendicular to the frame.

You did not say what transmission is in the truck now or originally. If it is an LT95, everything is different. If it is NAS then the driveshaft lengths are the same so it should be pretty easy.

Holes are different IIRC.
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Old August 24th, 2012, 10:16 AM
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I have a set of the weld in 300 tdi mounts if you need comes with a template.. They are very different than the gas engine mounts..as mentioned the rear crossmember is different also.. Stephen at safari has all you need..
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Old August 24th, 2012, 10:48 AM
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On other thing on welding the mounts to the frame ELEVATION. My re-power kit came with the template BUT it did not indicate the elevation the weld the mounts onto the frame. I ended up mounting mine about 1/2" low. Then the problem arises in that the engine fan and fan cowl conflict (fan ends up being close the bottom of the cowl). Mine doesn't rub, but you can see that it would have been more vertically centered in the cowl had I welded the mounts about 1/2" higher.
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i have a scrap frame with 300tdi mounts if you want them...
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Old August 24th, 2012, 11:23 AM
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i have a scrap frame with 300tdi mounts if you want them...
A picture of the mounts (with a tape measure) installed on the frame would probably go a long way to help out "TURBOFAN" .
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Good info. Thanks for the offer on the 300tdi mounts. It looks like there was one transfercase mount on the pallet, however the transmission mount was not included. I just found out the bellhousing was from a RHD, as the slave cylinder was on the right side, so I'll be running a new hard line to make that work. The glow plug controller, tranny mount, new springs, difflock linkage and other parts were just ordered, so if I'm lucky I'll see them next week. I would have liked t be able to get the transmission in today so I could start the welding process, but I guess that will have to wait.
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these are all over the internet. but, for the google-challanged here they are again:
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Old August 24th, 2012, 12:56 PM
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i have a scrap frame with 300tdi mounts if you want them...
What would you want to cut them off? If I just have to weld and not fab more than I need to, it might be worth it. Though from those pictures, it looks like heavy angle would get me there..

Holy photos Ren Ching, hero. With all those, my research is done, and I can spend my time more productively, on bringatrailer.com, or trying to figure out whether or not I should take the ratty old TR6 my father is trying to pawn off on me.
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Those pics above are all mine.... I was going to add, if you PM me your email I'll send them over, but no need, as they're all there! :-)
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