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Old May 31st, 2015, 12:21 PM
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How do I support Rover while changing axle?

I need to do work on the front and back axles. Manual says "support the chassis". I can support in the middle of the car under the doors with jack stands. How do I support the front of the car? Of course the bumper and chassis are quite high off the ground. I've been told never, ever use cinderblocks. So how do I keep it up?

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Old May 31st, 2015, 12:30 PM
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Jack stands on the front and back too (often on the frame near the axle housing or the axle housing itself, when you say work in the axle do you mean the axles themselves?

If you end up doing this a lot it may be worth grabbing a pair of jack axle stands from TSC.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 12:33 PM
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I can't support on the axle because I'm taking it out. Without the axle in the front, the only place to support is on the chassis near the bumper. Would I need to get a really tall jack stand?
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You'll need some relatively tall Jack stands. I just pulled my rear axle out and you need enough clearance to pull it out (wheels off). Jack stands under the chassis in front of the rear axle and I had another under the hitch. Dropped the axle on a dolly and pulled it sideways.Click image for larger version

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I can't support on the axle because I'm taking it out. Without the axle in the front, the only place to support is on the chassis near the bumper. Would I need to get a really tall jack stand?
I think we need to be precise in our terms; you can pull an axle while supporting via the axle housing. If you are removing the entire housing then yes, you need tall jack stands-or wood blocks under normal jack stands going to the frame.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 12:56 PM
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I think we need to be precise in our terms; you can pull an axle while supporting via the axle housing. If you are removing the entire housing then yes, you need tall jack stands-or wood blocks under normal jack stands going to the frame.

Indeed. I should have said entire assembly.
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Old May 31st, 2015, 12:57 PM
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Indeed. I should have said entire assembly.
I would look at some of those TSC jacking jack stands on solid wood blocks and go to the frame near the bumper.
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throw your winch line up over a block hanging from a sturdy beam/tree and hook it to your rear xmember and winch.
Oh wait.. that is how to flip it on its roof.
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Alec,
If you are new at jacking up a car and placing it on stands, I suggest having someone experienced with the process around to assist. A lot can go wrong, especially when working on more than tires and brakes. Just ~2 years ago we lost someone in the Rover community when crushed by his Disco in Richmond, VA.
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Alec, If you are new at jacking up a car and placing it on stands, I suggest having someone experienced with the process around to assist. A lot can go wrong, especially when working on more than tires and brakes. Just ~2 years ago we lost someone in the Rover community when crushed by his Disco in Richmond, VA.
X2! Lost a cousin. Took 3 days. Terrible. Mitigate the risk with proper equipment and help the first time. It's just best to learn any risky process hands on from someone with experience imho.
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Yep, if you're not sure...ask someone with experience for help.

Greene County Man Dies After His Car Rolls Over Him

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Alec, Ray and I have a Rover buddy in Free Union...perhaps he could lend you a hand if necessary...
Above all, be cautious!

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Old May 31st, 2015, 02:12 PM
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Wheel chocks on the other axle plus e brake on to.
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I used some tree pieces I had cut into blocks. And some 4x6 pieces of timber to fine tune it.

I now have a bunch of leftover 6x6 timbers cut into 2' long pieces that I would crisscross now. If they are good enough to raise houses good enough for the D. Shook it a bunch to make sure it was stable. Check CL for people getting rid of old timbers. IMO - jack stands are way too squirrelly and unsafe.

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you can (SHOULD) also use your tires...seeing they will apparently be off anyway...as another safety item under the truck.
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2x4's or 4x4's are fantastic for this purpose and not too expensive.
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you can (SHOULD) also use your tires...seeing they will apparently be off anyway...as another safety item under the truck.
Exactly! Never set up a system to where a single point of failure is catastrophic. My back up usually has a back up! I know it's safety overkill, by life is too short to die young and badly! Good luck.
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Yea, given the question and the ideas thrown around... just use all of them and maybe you'll be alright.

If you haven't ever worked around heavy equipment (or just unsuccessfully) and are lost enough feel the need to ask. Probably worth getting an on site second opinion. Your immediate family does NOT count.
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Yep, if you're not sure...ask someone with experience for help.

Greene County Man Dies After His Car Rolls Over Him

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Alec, Ray and I have a Rover buddy in Free Union...perhaps he could lend you a hand if necessary...
Above all, be cautious!

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Who is this Rover buddy in Free Union? PM me if you want. Thanks!
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You haven't had the true Rover experience until one falls on you and busts a couple ribs.
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