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Old May 17th, 2010, 04:12 PM
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Has anyone used HID ballasts/bulbs with the e-code housings?
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Old May 17th, 2010, 04:18 PM
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I have a set that I have yet to install, but it looks easy.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 04:25 PM
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its real simple install took less than 20 mins and they came out pretty good

i ordered mine from ddmtuning.com this is by far the cheapest place to get em and they work had them in for almost a year now
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Old May 17th, 2010, 05:02 PM
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do you need a new wiring harness?
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Old May 17th, 2010, 05:23 PM
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No, they just plug and play. The HID are actually more efficient, so no upgraded wiring needed.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 05:35 PM
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Which kit did you get?

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its real simple install took less than 20 mins and they came out pretty good

i ordered mine from ddmtuning.com this is by far the cheapest place to get em and they work had them in for almost a year now
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how is the pattern? Rally lights said that the HIDs would have a shitty pattern etc and tried pretty hard to talk me out of it.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 05:55 PM
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Which kit did you get?
i got their Apexcone Raptor in 55wt and 8000k bulb color.

http://www.ddmtuning.com/Products/Ap...Raptor-HID-Kit

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how is the pattern? Rally lights said that the HIDs would have a shitty pattern etc and tried pretty hard to talk me out of it.
im using IPF headlight housing and it isnt really that bad
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Old May 17th, 2010, 09:11 PM
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In my experience HID are headaches unless they're factory fitted.
Seen a few experiences on sports cars and it was trouble free
only for a few weeks.
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Old May 17th, 2010, 10:43 PM
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Why is that? Seems pretty simple to me.

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In my experience HID are headaches unless they're factory fitted.
Seen a few experiences on sports cars and it was trouble free
only for a few weeks.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 08:54 AM
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Why is that? Seems pretty simple to me.
I guess it's the low quality of components, mainly ballasts.
You can get a pair of bi-xenon for a really cheap price now,
so the quality is probably low also.
How can you know your buying quality, unless you're
Audi, bmw or Mercedes and you're buying thousands
with your specs ?
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Old May 18th, 2010, 09:53 AM
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I think that price is rockin and a lifetime warranty--I would totally take a swing on one of those kits. I still have a few tweaks that I have to do for my motor, but once those are done, I am going to give this a shot. $45 (55W) for lamps and ballasts w/lifetime seems to be a smokin deal.
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Old May 18th, 2010, 10:24 AM
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/... $45 (55W) for lamps and ballasts w/lifetime seems to be a smokin deal.
$60 actually. You need H4s, which add $20.
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So on my Series rebuild I have nothing right now. So I would need housings and the light kit right?
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Yes.

Hella: http://www.rallylights.com/detail.aspx?ID=350
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IPF: https://www.expeditionexchange.com/ipf/
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$60 actually. You need H4s, which add $20.
ive seen the same kits sell for $200-$300
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hmm might try these out
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Old May 19th, 2010, 01:46 AM
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I am currently running sealed cheap sylvania lamps. Non replaceable inner H4 lamps. What is the best/cheapest H4 compatible housings? I have some old cracked Hella's (over priced crap that cracked at the first mud hole) and I know of Piaa, but if I am going to replace the innards with these, does any one have a good suggestion on an inexpensive but good "housing"? Preferably with a crack-resistant lens?
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A couple of other threads you may want to read..

Here are a couple of other threads you may want to read through as well. For the record, I personally believe HID conversions into housings not designed for them are a bad idea, that realistically gain you nothing in true lighting performance, and are likely to create undo glare both for the oncoming driver and yourself. However, there are alot of people who will tell me I'm completely wrong, so do your own research..

'Headlight HID Conversion'

'Headlight Upgrade'

Whatever you do, if you are truly concerned with the performance of your lighting system, stay away from the higher color temperature bulbs (Stay with the 4300K), light output drops off drastically, as does performance in poor weather conditions, and they are that much more annoying to oncoming drivers. They exist solely for the aesthetic value many seem to be after..

Cut from my response on the above linked thread...

'QUOTE=LRNAD90;108987]Hey Scott,

I'm not really sure it is worth it to go over to HIDs in your Defender, but that being said, don't get drawn into the kits that replace the bulb in a standard headlamp housing. They are usually poor quality at best, and because the placement of the filament within the reflector assembly is so critical to the light pattern produced, they generally end up producing less useful, less defined lighting patterns that scatter light and glare to oncoming drivers with little benefit to you.

Sylvania had, at one time, an HID conversion kit that consisted of the entire 7" round headlamp assembly, and would be the only correct way to convert to HID (in my opinion), since the headlamp housing/reflector/lenses was properly designed for the HID bulb used in it. Unfortunately I cannot seem to find any info in a quick Google search, and I'm pretty sure Sylvania stopped making the kits a few years ago.[/QUOTE]

IMHO, a good 7" round e-code headlamp housing (IPF, Hella, Cibie), with a quality higher wattage bulb and IPF or similar headlamp wiring harness is a better upgrade and provides excellent lighting.
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Old May 19th, 2010, 11:43 AM
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Osram/Sylvania do still make "proper" 7" Bi-xenon HID housings... There are two main models.

Xe7R, http://suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=267

XP6024, http://suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=255
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