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Old May 5th, 2011, 03:09 PM
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help - what engine is this

I have an 86 110 and am changing the timing belt. I ordered a belt from lrseries and it was too long. They then sent me the correct belt for the 2.5 na diesel which is the engine I thought I had. There is an idler pully next to the belt tensioner that is not shown in any manuals that I have seen. The new belt is still too loose ( etc 7333). Does anybody know what engine I have so I can get back on the road? All help is appreciated.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 03:46 PM
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what engine is this?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 05:52 PM
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Can you take a picture of the entire engine?? That would be a lot easier.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 08:11 PM
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I thought somewhere on the block it was stamped to tell you if it's a 12J (2.5na) or 19J (2.5td) but I can't remember. Secondly there doesn't look like there is any tension on that idler pulley? Try lining it up and putting some tension on it.
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Old May 5th, 2011, 08:55 PM
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Chris, even with the pully in its full tight position, the belt still flops around. If the belt was shorter I wouldn't even be able to tighten anyway because the square hole for the ratchet extension is behind the idler pully. IF somebody knows where the engine number is stamped, that info would be great!
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Looks like my old 2.5 NA
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Old May 5th, 2011, 09:07 PM
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Dave, did yours have that idler pully next to the belt tensioner?
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Chris, it looks like my 2.5na and EC7333 is the correct belt for that engine. It's been awhile since I changed out the timing belt but I know I was able to get a ratchet extension into the belt tensioner.
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I was able to find a photo of a 12j engine and as you can see, the injector gear is lower and there is no idler next to the tensioner pully. (looks very similar to the 300tdi). Has anyone seen this engine before or know what it is?
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Old May 5th, 2011, 11:30 PM
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sherpa engine?

from http://www.slroc.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4977.0

" the difference between the sherpa and land rover engine is the timing casing and the position of the injection pump. I rebuilt one in a 1963 IIa lwb, the front cover on the timing casing is a tin plate, basically, and is not sealed against water and dirt where the land rover has an alloy cover and gasket to seal it. The injection pump on the sherpa engine sits higher up on the engine due to the different timing casing which means it fits the standard series engine mounts where a land rover engine requires the o/s engine mount to be modified to clear the injection pump as it's mounted lower down. The sherpa engine uses a different timing belt which can be a bit difficult to locate now but for the rest I used land rover parts.
Hope this helps."

"It looks like it is a 15J which came from the Sherpa. Near to the fuel pump you should find the engine number stamped into the block, 15j xxxxx

I thin the timing belt is 128 teeth where as the landy engines where 124 teeth, or there abouts. "


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I was able to find a photo of a 12j engine and as you can see, the injector gear is lower and there is no idler next to the tensioner pully. (looks very similar to the 300tdi). Has anyone seen this engine before or know what it is?
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Old May 6th, 2011, 12:41 AM
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Mystery Solved!!! Thanks Ren Ching. It is the Leyland DAF Sherpa 15j engine. The belt has 124 teeth instead of 128. A water pump gasket and correct timing belt and I will be on the road again (if I didn't damage the engine when the belt broke). I thought sherpas were fast mountain climbers.
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A friend of mine has one of those in his 109. He still has the goofy air cleaner on top of the intake manifold. Looks like yours has something more like the usual LR setup.

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Mystery Solved!!! Thanks Ren Ching. It is the Leyland DAF Sherpa 15j engine. The belt has 124 teeth instead of 128. A water pump gasket and correct timing belt and I will be on the road again (if I didn't damage the engine when the belt broke). I thought sherpas were fast mountain climbers.
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I have the same problem

hello ineed the reference to the Leyland DAF Sherpa 15j because i don,t find the belt for this engine
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