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Old June 14th, 2009, 07:25 AM
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Help! Key Stuck in Ignition - Electrical Problem

So here's the issue:

When I go to turn off my '97 D90, the key gets stuck in the ignition - Position I (radio is still getting power). I can't pull the key out, and if left in the truck, it drains the battery dead.

When the battery goes dead (or is disconnected) the key can be turned to Position 0 - the full "off" position - and can be removed from the ignition.

Any thoughts on what part is wrong or how to fix?

Thanks guys.

GW

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Old June 14th, 2009, 07:13 PM
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I have an idea, try moving the steering wheel lwft and right, some times the lock in mine sticks and I cant get the key out.

I move the steering wheel and it does something to the ignition to release it.

Hope this helps.
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Old June 14th, 2009, 08:17 PM
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Thanks Jason. Tried this...the issue seems to be electrical in nature. GW
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Old June 14th, 2009, 09:19 PM
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Land rover ignition cylinders are notorious for failing. For a short term fix, you can undo the shear bolts with a punch and a small hammer that hold the cylinder to the steering column. Take the two phillips screws out that hold the black switch on the back of the cylinder and order a new key and ignition cylinder. You can turn the truck on and off with a screwdriver. If you don't replace it then the next thing to happen is your key will cease to work at all and if you are unlucky like me it will choose to do so when you are parked in a fire lane!

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To be clear... you use the punch to turn the round headed shear bolts until they get loose and you can unscrew them with your fingers.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 10:52 AM
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Thanks Scott. Right now I am pulling the battery cable every time I park the truck. Definitely not a long-term fix. Will have to look up the cost on a ignition cylinder and keys... GW
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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:00 AM
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Do your brake lights work? Does it go fully in park?

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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:09 AM
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Thanks Scott. Right now I am pulling the battery cable every time I park the truck. Definitely not a long-term fix. Will have to look up the cost on a ignition cylinder and keys... GW
This is oddly familiar - I had a similar problem with my truck not shutting off. I replaced the first $12 relay (a/c) on the bottom/right next to the passenger door and that fixed it.

http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/YWB10032.cfm

I also pulled that from the wiring harness and conveniently lost power to the vehicle.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:16 AM
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On the 97, pop the cap off the top of the drive selector and see if you can push the safety lever down and then remove your key. If that does the trick simply apply graphite to the slide, replace cap and joy joy.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 11:30 AM
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Yes, it is surprising how many things can cause this.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 02:14 PM
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Will check out the drive selector this PM. Ron - I believe it is going fully into "Park" and the brake lights work. GW
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Old June 15th, 2009, 02:35 PM
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IIRC the NAS D90s use the same ignition cylinder as a Triumph TR6?
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Old June 15th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Will check out the drive selector this PM. Ron - I believe it is going fully into "Park" and the brake lights work. GW
The truck will still go fully into park but the safety latch wont release, making it think the truck is not really parked and not let you remove the key.
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Old June 15th, 2009, 04:33 PM
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IIRC the NAS D90s use the same ignition cylinder as a Triumph TR6?
I wouldn't be at all surprised since the key blank is the same as the 1980 Rover sedan that I used to have....loads of Triumph / MG parts in that thing.
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Old June 16th, 2009, 06:36 AM
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Chris - what is the easiest way to pop the cap off the drive selector?
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Old June 16th, 2009, 08:37 AM
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I use a tiny flat head screw driver or knife point. Should just pop off.
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