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Old October 8th, 2015, 09:38 PM
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Help! Breakdown at roadside

Hi guys,
Am stuck on the 401 in Brockville, Ontario. Engine is a 300Tdi and I noticed earlier that the turbo seemed to be making a louder, breathier whooshing wind noise on boost. Then the engine lost almost all power while I was heading uphill. I pulled over with batt and oil warning lights lit. Shut off engine and tried to see if any hoses etc were loose. Oil level seems OK but there is some oil on the surface of the hoses like the top hose. Tried restarting and can get it started but runs very very rough like it is 40 below out and the engine is cold Any ideas? CAA on their way. To make matters worse I am pulling a 12' cargo trailer.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 09:43 PM
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Pic of top hose area. Oil actually slightly below min mark but I am not level, on an uphill.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 10:14 PM
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If it is a hose, tape that up the best you can and you should be able to maintain some sort of speed under load. I have had this happen to me (too) many times, was on a long trip and duct tape got me where I needed to go! The series of events you list is consistent with a boost leak.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 10:34 PM
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Thats a very odd spot to fail....assuming its a failure rather than a hole caused by abrasion.
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Old October 8th, 2015, 11:18 PM
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Thanks for all the fast and helpful replies! Indeed perhaps that is the cause: hole in the top hose. Funnily enough it looks easier to see in the pic than it was in the dark! I had the tow truck drop the 110 at a local diesel truck shop (closed at this hour though) and then my son and I at the local Comfort Inn. Will investigate further at first light. Thanks all!
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Worst case scenario you could slice off the bit of hose after the hole, slice the remaining hose in half and bridge it with a piece of muffler tubing and a pair of jubilee clamps. BOOM! You are back on the road.
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the truck should start and idle w/o that hose. The engine gets no boost @ idle. Problem is elsewhere
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Worst case scenario you could slice off the bit of hose after the hole, slice the remaining hose in half and bridge it with a piece of muffler tubing and a pair of jubilee clamps. BOOM! You are back on the road.
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Never seen a silicone hose blow out like that at the low pressure these are under. Must be a manufacturing flaw. To be on the safe side, maybe you should use alloy tube instead.
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Old October 9th, 2015, 10:54 AM
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Well, back to square one. The top hose is intact, no hole there. Mechanic is having a look at it now. He is having a hard time keeping it running at idle. You have to keep the revs up to keep it running. :shrug
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Well, back to square one. The top hose is intact, no hole there. Mechanic is having a look at it now. He is having a hard time keeping it running at idle. You have to keep the revs up to keep it running. :shrug
Like Doug said, if it can't run normally at idle, doesn't sound like a turbo issue. since it does run at idle (albeit poorly), i'm thinking it's fueling (severely restricted fuel filter) or your timing slipped.

Blocked fuel filter will increasingly rob power until it hits a critical point. once past that point, the engine will only run for a short time (until a vacuum develops between the pump and the filter) then die. It will barely run at all. The fact that it happened all of a sudden could be that some debris worked it's way to a severely clogged filter and did it in. or perhaps your fuel pump diaphragm tore and can't keep pressure up. wouldn't hurt changing your filter. anybody know a local auto store equivalent filter?

do you have a sedimenter?
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Old October 9th, 2015, 11:46 AM
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Is there significant air when you bleed the fuel filter? I just had a series of dead 12v pumps that signaled their death by having lots of air in the system.

Hey apparently gravity feed fuel to the IP works if your are seriously in need of getting back on the road.
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Check the three bolts and timing on IP pump pulley.

Set Crankshaft pulley to TDC, use a timing pin to check the IP pump pulley.
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Check the three bolts and timing on IP pump pulley.

Set Crankshaft pulley to TDC, use a timing pin to check the IP pump pulley.
IF, the IP driveshaft nut come a little loose and causes the hub to slip a bit on the driveshaft, you can end up with the same result, despite the timing pin and 3 bolts being perfect. the IP would then slip into a retarded timing state, which could be compensated by a slight advancement.


if the hub does slip on the driveshaft, it'll take removal and a bosch shop to realign the timing of the IP to the hub.
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yeah, that too.
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While I am not in any way discarding the comments on fuel and timing issue, I have had a lower intercooler hose on a VW TDI come off and it would barely idle it at all and would rev up and down erratically and barely move. So just check for the easy fixes first!
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While I am not in any way discarding the comments on fuel and timing issue, I have had a lower intercooler hose on a VW TDI come off and it would barely idle it at all and would rev up and down erratically and barely move. So just check for the easy fixes first!
agreed! but the easy checks should take less than 10 minutes for a diesel mechanic. He needs to have the next steps after that handy since he's stuck.
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agreed! but the easy chicks should take less than 10 minutes for a diesel mechanic. He needs to have the next steps after that handy since he's stuck.
Fixed that for you.
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