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Old October 31st, 2013, 07:09 AM
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Am still running old school original headlights ( sealed beam) in my truck. What options are out there that you guys like?
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Old October 31st, 2013, 07:15 AM
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Get some Hella or IPF "E" glass and wire them up with relays off the battery.
Amazing difference.

http://www.mgexperience.net/article/...elays_revb.pdf
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Old October 31st, 2013, 07:27 AM
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Hella and dedicated circuit with relays x2
There are also higher wattage bulbs than the standard to consider as well.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 07:31 AM
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I also did the hella lights and a painless wiring harness. Huge difference! Some of those new led headlights lok pretty sharp too.
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I just put in Trucklite LED headlights and am very happy with the look and output.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 08:18 AM
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I just put in Trucklite LED headlights and am very happy with the look and output.
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LED's have a ways to go IMO, really hard to beat the E-code Hellas with proper wiring and uprated bulbs. I like the sharp cutoff of the Hellas. It isnt a hindrance to oncoming traffic esp on trucks with big tires and tall springs. I hate those douche bags with their leveling kits and headlights at eye level.
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LED's have a ways to go IMO, really hard to beat the E-code Hellas with proper wiring and uprated bulbs. I like the sharp cutoff of the Hellas. It isnt a hindrance to oncoming traffic esp on trucks with big tires and tall springs. I hate those douche bags with their leveling kits and headlights at eye level.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 09:17 AM
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LED's have a ways to go IMO, really hard to beat the E-code Hellas with proper wiring and uprated bulbs. I like the sharp cutoff of the Hellas. It isnt a hindrance to oncoming traffic esp on trucks with big tires and tall springs. I hate those douche bags with their leveling kits and headlights at eye level.
^^ Bravo. ^^

IMHO, the current offering of LED headlights do nothing to enhance the aesthetics of a truck as old as the Defender.
I debated this when upgrading the lights on my Classic.
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LED's have a ways to go IMO, really hard to beat the E-code Hellas with proper wiring and uprated bulbs. I like the sharp cutoff of the Hellas. It isnt a hindrance to oncoming traffic esp on trucks with big tires and tall springs. I hate those douche bags with their leveling kits and headlights at eye level.
This: http://www.sierramadrecollection.com..._detail&p=4326

Plus a relay driven harness

Plus: http://www.piaa.com/store/p/49-H4-XT...gen-Bulbs.aspx
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Trucklites sealed 9007 lights are a great choice. Great light pattern, long bulb life and completely waterproof (unlike any H4 housings). Make sure you include realys.

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs...3781&langId=-1

I used to have Hellas. They were a nice light, but water gets in them when wading.
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I am a web wheeler so "wading" isnt an issue
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With the height of my lights if they go under water im in trouble for sure.

Will an h4 upgrade alone be better than the original yellow looking bulbs?
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With the height of my lights if they go under water im in trouble for sure.

Will an h4 upgrade alone be better than the original yellow looking bulbs?
Absolutely.
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I installed the second generation TruckLite LED's in my 90 last year and they are fantastic. They have none of the strange pattern issues the first gen exhibited. Also have a very low current draw, I believe 2.8 amps each.
I'll be installing a set on the 110 soon.
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The JW Speaker LED's are a great product, although the high beam leaves a bit to be desired and the price tag is quite steep for most. You really get what you pay for with the LED stuff. As for a standard incandescent, I've had positive experiences with the Wipac crystal housing and a Hella 55/100 bulbs.

I'm fitting these bi-xenon projectors in a 7" housing to run in my 110. These in conjunction with a Baja Designs light bar will provide more than enough light.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 12:16 PM
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With the height of my lights if they go under water im in trouble for sure.

Will an h4 upgrade alone be better than the original yellow looking bulbs?
Do the relays first. Cheap and makes a big difference. The stock wiring causes a lot of voltage loss. the Hellas are nice and do not cost very much. IMO, the LED headlights are an insane price and the light pattern is no better.

With a TDI, add a snorkel and you can go until you float, no problem. Headlight height in not very deep.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 01:06 PM
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Cant stress this enough. It will save your switch from burning out too.

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Bingo.

Then your switch is only activating the high/low relays; not handling all the current.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 01:10 PM
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Before I did my relays, I measured the loss. I measured 13% voltage loss in low beam and 18% in high with a normal 55/60 Watt H4 bulb. On high beam I got 10.1 volts at the light with 12.3 volts at the battery.
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Trucklites sealed 9007 lights are a great choice. Great light pattern, long bulb life and completely waterproof (unlike any H4 housings). Make sure you include realys.

http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs...3781&langId=-1
I've had these on my truck for two years with no relays and haven't had a problem. Do the relays make a difference in the light output or just protect the switch? (oops, just saw your post on voltage, nevermind)

I've never owned the Hellas so can't make a direct comparison.
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