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Old April 25th, 2016, 09:54 AM
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Headlight Recommendations

Recently noticed that a rock had gone through my sealed beam headlight (NAS 110) . Considering just replacing both at this point with some LED lights. Lots of choices to choose from (fortunately/unfortunately..)

Any recommendations? I see these on Fleabay:

Fit for Land Rover Defender 90 7" Round LED Headlight Lamp Hi Lo Beam 0547891 | eBay

Or should I just stick with something like this (cheaper/halogen - would replace both lights.)

HELLA LAMP VISION PLUS 7" HB2 HIGH/LOW, RNC673, 70477 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

Would love to hear about opinion/experiences/recommendations..

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Old April 25th, 2016, 09:58 AM
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I'm starting to feel like I'm answering the same questions over and over again. The Headlight Revolution channel has all the reviews on even the cheap ebay led units.
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I'll admit that I don't think that led's look appropriate on Series/Defenders, but that's my taste...or lack thereof. I fly behind led recognition and landing lights so I am not a total Luddite, I just haven't warmed up to them on classic vehicles.


That said, I would stick with an E Code H4 headlight as for ~$100-140 you can get a high quality light w/ the Euro beam pattern. I'd avoid the Hella Vision + lights, they are a US DoT compliant, semi sealed H4 headlight that has sort of a blend between the us and Euro light patterns.


I have the Hella E Codes (not Vision +), Cibie and Lucas H4 headlights on various cars and, while the Cibie's have the slightly better beam, figuring in price, the Hella's are the best. They are also tougher.


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Anybody tried the United Pacific 31400 as seen in the video that sonoros posted? Would it be something that I could plug right in to my existing setup without risking electrical issues?
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The downside I found with the Hella is they fill with water when you go wading. If you do not go wading, then it is not a concern.

I now use the Truck-Lite 27004 halogens. Fully sealed bulb and connector using 9007 bulbs that last many times longer than an H4. Nice and bright with a great light pattern. Around $150 for a pair.
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Old April 25th, 2016, 01:18 PM
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I have the Hella E Codes (not Vision +), Cibie and Lucas H4 headlights on various cars and, while the Cibie's have the slightly better beam, figuring in price, the Hella's are the best. They are also tougher.


try Rallylights.com
Wayne, are these the Hellas you're running? Great reviews.
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Wayne, are these the Hellas you're running? Great reviews.
That looks like them.

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I have the E-Codes and like em. But they don't compare to the Light the TruckLites put out. From a price stand point I haven't been able to justify them yet.
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I have the E-Codes and like em. But they don't compare to the Light the TruckLites put out. From a price stand point I haven't been able to justify them yet.
Do you have relays? AFAICT, Hella e-codes with good bulbs and relays are as good or better than any LED headlights I've seen.
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Im running relays but im only running 55w bulbs. The newer style LED TLs just put out an impressive amount of light.
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Rallylights has a remarkable inventory of H4 bulbs to go with the E code lights. I usually run a near standard low beam wattage- the improved lens design makes standard wattage much more effective without blinding on- coming cars- and a 100w high beam, through Hella waterproof 40 amp relays. Customers seem satisfied, and I happily run them on my own Rovers. Actually think the light from the E code out performs the three Hella 4k's on the winch bumper.....
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I'm starting to feel like I'm answering the same questions over and over again. The Headlight Revolution channel has all the reviews on even the cheap ebay led units.
Nice reviews. The individual reviews are a must watch if you plan on buying. It is all about the pattern.
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Headlight Recommendations

I recently installed GL-180 LED headlights. They are marked DOT/SAE and are from the same company (Giant Light) that produces the "Nolden" lights that were installed in some of the last Defenders that Land Rover produced. They are deeper than many others and I did have to raise the carbon canister in order to fit the right hand light on my NAS 90.

The beam pattern is quite unusual. The lamp consists of three elements. When low beam is switched on the upper (low beam) and middle (wide beam) LED arrays illuminate. This provides a wide while light with a very sharp cutoff. When "High" is selected the middle light goes out and the bottom (high beam) light illuminates. This results in longer distance light but with a noticeable loss of side light.

In all cases there are noticible artifacts such as reflections and shadows in the beam which take some getting used to. The low amperage draw (low or high beam) is a plus.
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If you can afford them, LED is the way to go. Brighter by far, low current draw so no funky relays or burnt out switches.

And as for the look ... they grow on you and you can't see them from the driving seat!

When I get my Series II - i'm going to install LED's but put a mesh stone guard over them.
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I highly recommend the JW speaker 8700 LEDs. They are a natural white without the blue tint that many cheap LEDs put off and have an incredible output. The chrome option looks great to keep that classic look. They are plug and play.

Here's a pic. The passenger side has a 6000 k marker lamp in that gives off a slight blue tint, whereas the drivers side has a natural white 5000 k led marker that matches the JW speaker light color.



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Do you have relays? AFAICT, Hella e-codes with good bulbs and relays are as good or better than any LED headlights I've seen.
I just have the stock lights currently - and decided to go with the Hella E-code with a +50% light output bulb.

I assume I don't need any replacing of relays, etc. if I stick with factory wattage, right?
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You can still burn out the switch. I was running 55 watt bulbs with e codes and still fried the switch. Just did it slowly.
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I just have the stock lights currently - and decided to go with the Hella E-code with a +50% light output bulb.

I assume I don't need any replacing of relays, etc. if I stick with factory wattage, right?
Rallylights offers a nice harness. I got that when I installed the Hella E's.
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I built my own harness but its just as easy to buy one from rallylights. If you build your own I recommend the h4 connectors built by the guy in California Headlightplugs.com
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Great. I ordered a harness from Ray over at Rallylights..
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