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Old October 11th, 2012, 01:32 AM
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Headlight conversions H4 vs High wattage

So my passenger bulb went out and I am thinking well....while I am at it do I need to upgrade. Any one have opinions on the British Pacific H4 conversion or the high wattage conversion?
http://www.britishpacific.com/groups...ghts&year=1997

And do my like the e-codes vs some other brand? I have always been a sylvania.

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Old October 11th, 2012, 05:30 AM
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The hella ecode is the housing, you can use whatever H4 bulbs you want. A lot of people run higher wattage bulbs, I have been pleased with the stock wattage and ecodess. If you opt for higher wattage bulbs you will want to run the lights through relays. ARB makes a harness. This has been discussed at length.
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Old October 11th, 2012, 09:05 AM
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Running the plain old 55/60W bulbs in the Hella lamps just now.

They're through two relays and fat wires just in case.

I ran...sheesh what were they...130/85's in the 1970's (in Marchal lamps) but that was when I actually drove fast at night

Not so much any more!
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I had the glass on my ecodes break during a winter wheeling event that involved a lot of water...switched to the trucklites and have been very happy. Either one works very well with just a standard bulb
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Old October 11th, 2012, 09:30 AM
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I have DOT ecodes and the passenger side cracked after deep wading at Rausch.

I'm still running the cracked headlamp, and aside from the cosmetic aspect, it doesn't seem to be problematic otherwise.

So I guess if you plan to do wading, avoid the ecodes.
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I am running those IPF H4 lights. I bought mine from EE a few years ago. They are great compared to the stock lights and take nearly no time or effort to install.

Don't drive during the day time offroad in winter conditions that involve water. Simple solution to the light breakages. If the lights aren't at a higher temperature, they won't break when cold water hits them.
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Don't drive during the day time offroad in winter conditions that involve water. Simple solution to the light breakages. If the lights aren't at a higher temperature, they won't break when cold water hits them.
Agreed that this is not a best practice but sometimes unavoidable!
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Agreed that this is not a best practice but sometimes unavoidable!
True statement.
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The $12 walmart/pepboys lights work fine. You should invest in a relay kit first.
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Amazing how people so young can have such a hard time seeing at night. Wait til you turn 50, you'll have to have ten of those suckers on your bumper! Bammmmm-Beee!
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x4 (5?) on the relay. Made a HUGE difference in the amount of light (let alone reliability) http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=33230
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Amazing how people so young can have such a hard time seeing at night. Wait til you turn 50...!
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Seems like most are opting to go with the high wattage kit since it comes with the harness and h4 conversion. Just need to get the bulbs.
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One thing to be aware of is that none of the H4 lights are waterproof. If you do deep wading, they will fill up with water. There are some other options if you want waterproof, but they cost more.

Also note that ALL high wattage bulbs have very short lives. If you plan to drive a lot with the lights on, be aware that bulb replacement will be a regular occurrence.
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One thing to be aware of is that none of the H4 lights are waterproof. If you do deep wading, they will fill up with water. There are some other options if you want waterproof, but they cost more.

Also note that ALL high wattage bulbs have very short lives. If you plan to drive a lot with the lights on, be aware that bulb replacement will be a regular occurrence.
This is why I like the cheapo walmart specials. They last forever, are cheap, sealed halogen beam so no water ingress, and have good light.
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This is why I like the cheapo walmart specials. They last forever, are cheap, sealed halogen beam so no water ingress, and have good light.
I suppose. BUT the light of a quality H4 headlamp IS MUCH better.

I'm running a light that has a modern 9007 bulb. These bulbs are fully sealed by design and have a much longer bulb life. Light output and pattern is much better than a sealed beam.

These ones: http://www.truck-lite.com/webapp/wcs...3781&langId=-1 They are the OE lights for a Hummer H2.
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I suppose. BUT the light of a quality H4 headlamp IS MUCH better. I'm running a light that has a modern 9007 bulb. These bulbs are fully sealed by design and have a much longer bulb life. Light output and pattern is much better than a sealed beam.

John you lost me when you said they are sealed and much better than a sealed. can you elaborate how they solve the wading problem?
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John you lost me when you said they are sealed and much better than a sealed. can you elaborate how they solve the wading problem?
The 9007 bulb has an o-ring designed into it where it enters the housing and the housing has a Goretex vent to prevent pressure buildup.

H4 on left, 9007 on right: http://www.red90.ca/rovers/Bright_Dr...lb_Compare.JPG

evilfij was talking about "sealed beam" lights. These are the ones without a removable bulb.
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Got it. Recommendations on converting? Does the glass housing need to be converted too?
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