I was encourage to change from rollers when I went from wire to synthetic. The argument was that if the (in my case amsteel blue) line gets in one of the corners the rollers might shred it. The steel rollers get rusty looking quick if you use your winch with wiire rope.
FWIW, Bill Burke says use a roller fairlead with synthetic too. With a hawse there is constantly friction against the rope. With a roller, there isn't. Yes there is the possibility of getting it wedged between the rollers, which he says has only happened to him one or two times in many years of winching, but he says if you are paying attention and take proper measures it shouldn't and the line will be in better condition in general.
I don't have a personal opinion on this yet as I have never owned a winch. Truth be told I'll likely get a hawse when I do though
Watch the plastic...the pic below is the aftermath of this weekend's off center line pull. Bear in mind I've had this setup on the truck for 2 years and countless winchings, but still-the worst part was the line ended up wedged in there and was a bit of a PITA to get out. I'll be switching to aluminum.
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Ray
ditto on that. have had the same thing happen with side pulls on plastic hawse fairleads. best to avoid both
Ray_G said:
Watch the plastic...the pic below is the aftermath of this weekend's off center line pull. Bear in mind I've had this setup on the truck for 2 years and countless winchings, but still-the worst part was the line ended up wedged in there and was a bit of a PITA to get out. I'll be switching to aluminum.
r-
Ray
X2 I had delrin rollers but lost one during a rainy night run ( i think it was because of the pins and c clips were not tight enough, changing to bolts and nuts) and i just bought the daystar rollers so wee'll see how those do...........
I saw that article in a RN Newsletter also about the hawse fairleads. Steering me away from them.
You can probably argue for either one, but since I have rollers already, it makes my decision much simpler.
I've been told if you have a new winch setup with new steel rollers, you should be fine putting synthetic. The problem comes if you are replacing a steel line with synthetic. The steel line creates nicks and burrs on the rollers that could cause the synthetic to fray.
Best bet if you are replacing your line with synthetic, go with replacement derlin rollers.
Here is a nice link to the different options http://www.winchline.com/fairleads.htm
The more I read about it, the least decided I am about what to do.
I have a used synthtic rope, a used aluminium hawse fairlead and a new roller fairlead.
The things is that because the the Milemarker drum is slightly displaced to one side (not on the centre of the vehicle) I will have to modify the bumper in order to install the aluminium hawse fairlead. Beacause the roller fairlead is considerably wider, I think I can fit the roller fairlead without major modifications to the existing bumper.
Are roller fairleads always wider than aluminium hawse fairleads ( mine is 7 inches wide).
I gotta say, with synthetic ropes, rollers are pointless. Even plastic ones. They dent easily, the metal holding them can smash. The winch line can get chewed up in the corners. And they hurt approach angle. Go AL like in the pic and be done with it. They are like $15 on ebay.
Yes, couldn't stay on t he trail and it in a big drop off on the far side. Probably would have been OK when dry.
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