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Old November 2nd, 2006, 12:40 PM
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I would like to repeat my advice. Go right to the tank with the supplied pickup. Others have teed into the fuel system in other places and had problems with air bubbles interfering with the fuel pump for the system.

Just my two cents

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Old November 2nd, 2006, 01:14 PM
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I would like to repeat my advice. Go right to the tank with the supplied pickup. Others have teed into the fuel system in other places and had problems with air bubbles interfering with the fuel pump for the system.

Just my two cents

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Your 2 cents are always welcome, your ideas have always worked well for me in the past.

Is it that the Espar is more sensitive to air in the line then the engine?

Do you think the chances of air bubble interference would decrease with the use of the pusher pump?

I have the template and another sender that could be run from the top of the tank from the original MOD rear tank but I had other plans for that and then I would/should have to run another sedimentor for the Espar.
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Old November 2nd, 2006, 01:57 PM
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Pendy,
thanks for your expertise and experience on this...but let me ask you if you feel that the 2nd fuel output on the sedimenter near the fuel tank would still cause this problem? I would never use the Espar while driving...just to warm up before startup...
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Old November 3rd, 2006, 12:28 AM
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Whisler I would not run another sedimentor for the ESPAR. Make the pickup a little high to suck clean fuel.

I would use the pulse pump. The fuel line is very small and air bubbles clog it even with the pump.

I would not hook it up to the sedimentor. It needs to pickup fuel from the tank direct IMO. A stand alone system with no variations during its routing.

This is all based on my personal experience and others bad experiences. The help line for ESPAR is rather useless. And they want the units installed in a professional setting, so do not let on to a home install.

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Old November 6th, 2006, 12:45 PM
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Just tested the set-up I have (Teed from fuel line that goes from the fuel filter to the Fuel Injection pump) this weekend. The D5 unit is not able to get fuel when the engine is running and throttle is applied, but it is able to get fuel while engine is idling.
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Old November 6th, 2006, 02:21 PM
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Michael,
at what point did you T in? near the fuel tank or in the engine compartment?
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Old November 6th, 2006, 06:58 PM
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George,

In the engine compartment, about 12" upstream from the Fuel Injection Pump (not the lift pump)
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Old December 8th, 2006, 09:37 AM
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Anyone running one of these on B20 or greater? I was reading through the install manual on the D2 Hydronic and it states the warranty is voided above B5 biodiesel. I'm wondering if that is to cover their butt in case the mixture is tainted, or if their truly is an issue with the materials used in the construction.
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Old December 8th, 2006, 03:04 PM
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Hey...for those contemplating this install I did yet another search on google and this time this popped up...

http://www.reedx.net/landrover/mods/eberspacher/

terrific write up specific to D90 (although it's a UK spec truck I think)
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Old December 8th, 2006, 04:56 PM
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Great link! He's done a lot of cool mods.
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Picture, finally

I have attached at picture here in pdf.
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Old October 21st, 2007, 09:49 AM
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Pendy, where do you recommend tying into the cooling system?
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Old October 27th, 2007, 04:47 PM
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how to tap plastic fuel tank?

We are installing the Espar Hydronic 5 on my 95 NAS D90 soft top...anyone else have a plastic fuel tank like I do? How did you mount the fuel pick up? on a steel tank you can weld in a new piece...what do you do on plastic?
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Pull the fuel pump and see if there is a place in the top of it where you can drill a hole for the pickup. Or use one of the breather hose locaitons (there are 2 - both on top, right and left). I have a secondary tank so I plumbed it from there. I thought the manual recommended keeping the fuel line less than 2m or some thing. Also, did the place you bought it from include the fuel pickup? It is supposed to be included in the kit?
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Old November 1st, 2007, 02:55 PM
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jim...thanks for the suggestion...it's just what we did...
Also,
does anyone know what a shop would charge to install an Espar Hydronic D5 on a 300Tdi D90?
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George, there is a guy in Indiana that carries them for around $800 and would install it for cheap.


I believe his name is Greg www.lubricationspecialist.com

Lubrication Specialist, LLC.
5231 Sugar Hills Dr
Greenfield, IN 46140
Phone 888-306-4255
Fax 775-201-1480
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With the timer, I believe it's close to a $1000...this was over a year ago, so who knows if the price has gone up.
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that's who I bought it from...I was just curious what a typical install charge might be...
anyway, now i'm trying to figure out how to program the timer so it doesn't come on each and every day...
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Old November 4th, 2007, 04:18 PM
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That timer is interesting. There are 3 time memory slots, but I found that it simply applies the time setting to each day of the week, so even though you set it for monday, it will activate again on tuesday. The easy way to keep it from coming on though is just to not set the timer. The times stay in the memory, but unless you select the time using the "p" and the little red button is flashing every few seconds, its not going to come on.
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Old November 5th, 2007, 04:22 PM
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Just spoke with Greg at lubrication specialist about the timer and the set up is that there are three memory locations for three events...then, you can apply any one of the three to your next required event as you leave your truck. the unit can not be programmed to come on every day for 7 days...you have to ask it to turn on for the next time you will need it...pretty confusing but he said it is to save the battery..
Oh, and the thing is REALLY loud. Since I park in a high rise in downtown Chicago I am worried that some over eager security guard will call Homeland Security and have the thing towed away by the bomb and arson squad...so, I am ordering the accessory muffler...hope it helps...probably need to make a sign for the window too.
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Old November 5th, 2007, 10:54 PM
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It is really loud, it sounds like an M1 starting up.
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