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Old November 1st, 2003, 10:09 AM
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I seem to have revits where the side pieces bolt down. Do these get drilled out and what goes in there place. Thanks
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Old November 1st, 2003, 10:58 AM
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They get drilled out...and Rivnuts (sic) get put in their place. Essentially these are nuts that are riveted into the bed capping. '94 trucks didn't get them unless they cam from the factory with a hard top, but from '95 on...all trucks had them.
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Old November 1st, 2003, 01:10 PM
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Where can I get some? And are they easy to istall?
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Old November 1st, 2003, 06:47 PM
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The rivnuts themselves are fairly easy to get, however you need a rivnut gun to install them.

Wurth is the manufacturer of choice in my book.

You could buy the whole set up or just wuss out and take it and pay the dealer, probably be cheaper to pay the dealer but then you would not have a rivnut gun.

Rivnuts can be installed without a gun but it is a challenge.

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Old November 4th, 2003, 09:23 AM
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Hi, I'm going to have the rivnuts installed on the capping in place of the revits. My question is I need to know where the rivnuts go to line up with the top. I don't have the top yet. I'm going to go pick it up and install it at the same time. The location of each nut is very important. CAN ANYONE help me with this. Thanks,Rich
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Old November 4th, 2003, 10:27 AM
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Take a look at the Tech Articles section of this site. There is a heading for fiberglass hard top. Page 10 shows the locations. I just put a top on my 94. All the holes line up with the rivets except for the one directly behind the door openings. This was the only hole that had to be drilled out. If possible wait to do the holes until you get the pieces, makes it easier in my opinion. Once the holes are drilled and the rivnuts installed, the top goes on fast.

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Old November 4th, 2003, 10:35 AM
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Thanks Mark, Where did you get the rivnuts and how did you install them. I'm more concerned with the placement. I have to put the nuts in before I get the top. I have to go pick it up and put it on then. Is there anyway you could advise on the placement of the rivnuts?
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Old November 4th, 2003, 11:35 AM
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Rich, I can measure mine and tell you.
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Old November 4th, 2003, 11:40 AM
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Thanks Mike. Where should I get the rivnuts and what size are they?
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Old November 4th, 2003, 12:14 PM
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I already had them from other work I have done. You can get them from a few places. You should just buy the set which has the setting tool and an assortment of sizes. I can guarantee you that you will use them again on another project. The ones that come with the top are 6mm, but I used 1/4-20 and stainless steel bolts that I bought at the hardware store. You just need to keep the metric hardware seperate when you take the top off in the spring. You can get the nutserts (rivnuts) from MSC (www.mscdirect.com) or McMaster Carr (www.mcmaster.com), search for threaded inserts.

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Old November 4th, 2003, 01:35 PM
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Thanks Mark, I'm going to get the plier style gun. They have two size M6 rivnets. What is the difference?
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Old November 4th, 2003, 03:58 PM
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The thread pitch. I am not sure what it is. I can check tonight.
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Old November 5th, 2003, 10:17 AM
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OK. Not sure if all tops are the same after measuring mine and seeing that they are kind of rendomly placed.

Drivers side:

1 measured from the front of the rear most rollbar.
hole
1. is 5/8"
2. 7 1/8"
3. 22 9/16"

2 measured from roll bar behind driver
measuring going backwards 5 3/4"
measuring going forward 1 1/2"

3 measuring from rear most roll bar going towards rear door
1. 4 5/8"
2. 5 7/8"

Pasenger side:

1 measured from the front of the rear most rollbar.
hole
1. is 5/8"
2. 7 1/8"
3. 21 3/8"

2 measured from roll bar behind driver
measuring going backwards 2 3/8"
measuring going forward 1 1/4"

3 measuring from rear most roll bar going towards rear door
1. 4 13/16"
2. 6 1/16"


I think it would be better to wait until you have the top before you drill any holes as minelook like the were drilled with the top on, and not by some type of template.

If you have to drive with it I would put the sides in the back and strap the top down on the roof.
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Old November 5th, 2003, 10:20 AM
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THANKS A lot Mike. I really appreciate it.
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Ok, I'm going to order the rivnuts today and was wondering what you guy's think of which ones I should get. I'm going to get the Plier style gun(cheap) but I'm unsure about which rivnuts to get. I'm going to use 6mm but they come in different sizes & styles. Any ideas....this is where I'm getting them.
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Old November 6th, 2003, 10:53 AM
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Sorry for the slow reply on the size. I looked on page 3040 of Cat 109. the frist 6 mm rivet nut is what you want. It is good for materials that are from.7- 4.2 mm thick and the rail cap is about 2 mm thick. The part # is 95105A183. You want to use the steel ones as the rail top is steel and you don't want closed-end Rivet nuts as they will hold water in them.
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SW/ST Hard top question

I have a SW that has been been converted to a ST. I'm about to install a fiberglass hard top, but I am curious if my side rails already have the rivnuts installed? Unfortunately, the rails have been covered in Rhino-line so I can't tell if they exist underneath there without cutting it up.

Does anyone know if the bolt pattern/rivnuts are the same for a SW and a ST with a hardtop? Any help would be appreciated.

(I know there is a similar thread already and it has been very helpful.)
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I am going to check on this tonight.
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Hard top question cont'd!

Richard, Mark, and Mike,

I am undertaking the exact same project Richard completed and your last thread has been a tremendous help. I have a SW that was converted to a ST and now I am installing a fiberglass hard top. I have a few questions if you don't mind me asking.

First, I only need one package of 25ct, M6 rivnuts, right? I also need the plier-style rivnut tool, but do I need any additional mandrels, nosepieces, or anything else? I don't even know what these are for!

Secondly, I have a layer of Rhino-liner sprayed onto my rails. Is this going to cause a problem in clearance anywhere?

Finally, underneath the rail I can feel the bottom of the existing rivets even though I can't see them underneath the Rhino-liner. Do you just drill a whole on top of the existing rivets if they happen to line up?

Any other help or recommendations would be greatly appreciated and thanks for your time.
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