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Old December 3rd, 2011, 06:12 PM
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Hard to beat this deal - Winch inside

So the past couple times I went wheelin alone I kept saying, I should really have a means of pulling myself out if I get stuck... I have the hi-lift jack, but not all the chains and attachments I would need to use it properly.

I was seconds away from buying the off road kit, then realized after I buy the 20' of chain I'll need it will cost me over $100. $100 for a pain in the @$$ way of yanking out a truck just didn't seem worth it to me.

I've read a bunch of rave reviews about this badlands winch from Harbor Freight tools... Its a $450 winch on sale for $350.

So - i went to Harbor Frieght, put one in the cart, closed my eyes and ran to the register to limit the temptation to buy the whole damn store, and checked out. The kid at the register ask if I would like a coupon... well DUH!

He took another $75 off! got a 9000# winch for $275.00 + tax

Normally I only go to Harbor Frieght for not so important stuff. It certainly not the best quality and the fact its almost all made in china pisses me off. But, there are some deals where I just have to succomb, and had it not been for the great reviews of this winch from multiple sources I would never have bought it.

Anyways, Heres a quick pic, had to buy a spool of battery cable to reach the battery (they only give you about 6' which would work if our batteries were under the hood!

Also changed out the battery terminals so I could more easily fit some extra wires onto the post. I didn't really like the idea of taping all the way around the circuit breaker assembly that came with the winch, but I disliked the idea of it not being insulated even more. I guess the tape could hold in heat and cause them to trip prematurely, but line to ground short would be much worse IMO

I used the hole for the hand crank to pull the wires through, once the bumper is done I'll have it mounted with some more pics

I'm having a local fabricator "modify" the factory bumper to be able to support the winch and the load. He's a marine fabricator so if he can build boats this should be a cake walk. He welded in my rear cross member and its solid as a rock.


Anyways - This is the begining of some big big plans I have for this truck (and myself). Its a little to early to give away any secrets but i'll be sure to start a build up thread soon.
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Old December 3rd, 2011, 08:21 PM
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My dad has the #12000 on his polaris, great reviews, tons of power, and worth everybit of 350 bucks!

------ Follow up post added December 3rd, 2011 08:28 PM ------

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Old December 3rd, 2011, 09:15 PM
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Great to hear it again. Like I said, I'd typically be a bit skeptical of buying something so critical from harbor Frieght, but I've yet to hear a single complaint.
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Where is harbor freight and I would love to get hooked up with your welder. I'm in Fair Haven and I drive a 94 NAS 90 with fiberglass hardtop and safari rack.
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Old December 4th, 2011, 08:27 AM
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There is a harbor frieght in Brick, and one in edison. The one in edison has a greater selection i think. Its right next to my office so if you need anything let me know i can pick it up for ya.

The welder is right in sea bright. Ill be bringing my truck there sometime next week if you want to tag along
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Those winches work fine........for a year or two.
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Adrian and Matthew.

save yourself aggravation if you want to mount the winch to a stock bumper.

Get a mounting plate from a place like Quadratec , eBay , etc. in a bolt pattern 10" x 4.5"

Then weld the lip and the sides to the bumper and couple of L shape reinforcements under the plate towards the front of the bumper ( I am sure would be nicer and cheaper

This is similar to what I mounted on my 109 years ago
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Old December 4th, 2011, 12:39 PM
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Adrian and Matthew.

save yourself aggravation if you want to mount the winch to a stock bumper.

Get a mounting plate from a place like Quadratec , eBay , etc. in a bolt pattern 10" x 4.5"

Then weld the lip and the sides to the bumper and couple of L shape reinforcements under the plate towards the front of the bumper ( I am sure would be nicer and cheaper

This is similar to what I mounted on my 109 years ago

I think thats a very good idea. I can still use my fabricator to re-enforce the bumper, but this way he doesn't have to design a plate. Found one on ebay for $60 shipped. All he'll have to do then is weld it to the bumper, and re-enforce the factory bumper so it doesn't buckle.

Thanks for the help! I'll let you know how it goes!
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Souds good. By 1 or 2 years do you mean lifespan or use? Adrian, I think I have seen your truck at gourmet picnic no? Let me know when you plan to head over to Sea Bright.
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Souds good. By 1 or 2 years do you mean lifespan or use? Adrian, I think I have seen your truck at gourmet picnic no? Let me know when you plan to head over to Sea Bright.

Yea probably me.. Haven't been there in awhile but did go a couple times this past year. Is that your yellow one right next to it? nice truck if it is!

I ordered the mounting plate, once it comes in I'll be going there to see him, I'll send you a pm
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I'm pretty sure I saw your truck there. The one next door is a ST and prolly never saw mud. Mine has more WV dirt and rust from the PO but is getting closer and closer to being rust free and contained. let me know when you plan to head over to seabright
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You should at least use some decent battery terminals.
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You should at least use some decent battery terminals.

These are brand new ones. These were the best I could find for the job at hand, it allows the main battery cable, and two ancilary connections per terminal.... maybe the pictures aren't showing up well?

There is really no good way to mount this stupid circuit breaker assembly that came with the winch, I'd have prefered an insulated/isolated base that I could mount to the compartment walls, but thats just not the case
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The 300 dollar champion winch at costco used to come with a winch plate.
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These are brand new ones. These were the best I could find for the job at hand, it allows the main battery cable, and two ancilary connections per terminal.... maybe the pictures aren't showing up well?

There is really no good way to mount this stupid circuit breaker assembly that came with the winch, I'd have prefered an insulated/isolated base that I could mount to the compartment walls, but thats just not the case
These terminals aren't bad, they are just the universal style that inches the cable under a tin plate. I used to have them in my E30...just watch that they do not vibrate loose.
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Those winches work fine........for a year or two.
they are no name ramsey's, slow and torquey but dependable.
I have 4 all together the oldest is about 10 yrs the newest is about 3. other than shorted remotes no major issues.
cheap enough that if they develop a catastrophic failure you can trash it and get a new unit and you are out just a few bucks.
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These terminals aren't bad....
They are crap. Especially when used with a vented battery.

Good terminals:
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Well picked up the "modified" bumper today from the welders shop. Came out pretty good I think, and should be plenty sturdy. Will post pics tomorrow night, as I'm off to a wedding today/tonight.

Total cost - 9000#Winch $299 (after 20% in store coupon and Tax)
Mounting plate - $60 - ebay
Reinforced bumper/custom welding by fabricator - $375
Electrical cables, battery terminals etc - $50
New Grade 8 Hardware - $25

So the total cost to put a winch on this truck was just over $800. Not bad considering most bumpers alone cost more than that. We'll see if it was money well spent first time I try and use it!
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Looking forward to checking it out.
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So here it is - Have pictures up until final paint and mounting, only b/c it got dark by the time I was done.

The mounting plate was welded to the top of the factory bumper. The top tabs were significantly reinforced all the way to the winch mounting plate. Gussets were put on the front and inside the bumper for additional support and to help spread the load more evenly.

I ground off the surface rust that I could, but there wasn't much to begin with, only a little on the inside of the bumper. I sprayed it with rust inhibitor, and did the same with the frame rails where it mounts to. Then primed the bumper.

I'll have finished pics tomorrow when its light out.



Complaints:
  • Hardware that came with the winch sucks, got some grade 8 stuff instead.
  • Negative terminal is in a stupid place, hard to get to on the bottom of the winch.
  • mounting holes in the fairlead are directly inline with the widest part of the winch, which when its in a mounting plate make it impossible to fit the hardware to mount the fairlead. I'm going to have to drill new holes in order to mount the fairlead.
Its all wired up and on the truck, did a quick check and I at least got the wiring correct because it works lol. All in all I'm pretty happy with it, and I think it will be plenty strong to pull the truck out of anything I can get it into.
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