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Old August 20th, 2014, 02:30 PM
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hack jobs, jury-rigged D90's and other horror stories

Many of us here are the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th owners of our rigs. The eventual "sorting out" of our rigs after we take ownership of our vehicles inevitably turns up the usual hack jobs and other poor repairs undertaken by previous owners and even paid-mechanics who couldn't tell the difference between our rigs and a lifted bro-truck.
So, anyone have any stories of the most FUBAR hack-jobs and jury-rigged repairs they've seen on their rig or others?

My '94 D90:

1) Transfer case replaced with Discovery I unit. Converted to digital odometer. Instead of pulling the correct male-female coupling from a junkyard Discovery, the mechanic who did the conversion stripped the odometer wire ends, wrapped them in electrical tape to provide thickness and simply shoved it into the VSS.
2) Found tons and tons of electrical-tape wrapped wiring and even a small animal's nest inside the dash.
3) Hub seals (or lack thereof, whoever worked on them last decided to use RTV sealant instead of ordering new hub seals)
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Old August 20th, 2014, 02:46 PM
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RTV on the flange of the hub is better than the paper gasket IMHO.

My green 94 had the coolant temp sensor connector on an injector and vice versa (otherwise it was in good shape though). My yellow 95 had a fiberglass top wrapped in vinyl to cover cracks.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 03:07 PM
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I remember seeing a pic of Barry's NAS 110 that had expending foam sprayed in the bulkhead as part of some "repairs"
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Old August 20th, 2014, 03:11 PM
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3) Hub seals (or lack thereof, whoever worked on them last decided to use RTV sealant instead of ordering new hub seals)
Hub seals, or drive flanges?

There is a big difference. I use Right Stuff™ on the drive flanges and it is 10x better than the stupid single-use paper gasket. Regular RTV I have only had mixed success with in that application.

Hub seal I don't know how on earth one would attempt to substitute RTV for one but I would love to see that. And I would not be surprised given the crap I have done (errr...seen, lol)

Does this count?
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Old August 20th, 2014, 03:53 PM
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How about grey RTV on the headgasket?




It was quite a head scratcher when i saw that.. Passenger side head was junk, had been resurfaced beyond specs already. Found a good replacement head at the junkyard. Took my machinist calipers with me to make sure it hadn't been resurfaced already..
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Old August 20th, 2014, 03:57 PM
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With ROW trucks the extent of "bush fixes" we have seen are nearly endless.

Plus some butchered restorations from overseas and domestic restoration shops that were purported to be well sorted trucks and are anything but. Everything from horrible paint-jobs to missing heater boxes…

Nice vent pins on this one…

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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:21 PM
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With ROW trucks the extent of "bush fixes" we have seen are nearly endless. Plus some butchered restorations from overseas and domestic restoration shops that were purported to be well sorted trucks and are anything but. Everything from horrible paint-jobs to missing heater boxes… Nice vent pins on this one…
I like those. Tad long though. Are they stainless maybe?

The door panel as exhaust deflector on Janey has to be my worst personal offense, even though it was temporary. Cookie sheet as floorboard in the RRC, but hey that was only a range rover. :-)
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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:35 PM
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Do trail fixes by the owner (me) count?
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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:40 PM
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Do trail fixes by the owner (me) count?
I've done that one.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:53 PM
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If I ever sell my D2, this thread could easily double in size.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 04:55 PM
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In full disclosure of making it a 'hack'. When I got home, pissed off at the idea of replacing my 2nd OEM viscous unit in less than 6 months I pulled the screw I had 'borrowed' from the dash for the trail repair and replaced it with a bunch of smaller ones equally spaced around. It's still running like that today, 4 yrs later and I have never had another viscous unit 'failure'....
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Do trail fixes by the owner (me) count?
Nope…

A trail fix is just that. It's a completely different story when a shop uses the wrong part, or improvises a repair because they don't have the correct part. Even worse when they misrepresent the repair as "professional"
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Old August 20th, 2014, 05:04 PM
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Nope…

A trail fix is just that. It's a completely different story when a shop uses the wrong part, or trail fixes a repair because they don't have the correct part. Even worse when they misrepresent the repair as "professional"
That depends on whether it becomes a permanent fix after the trail....
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Old August 20th, 2014, 05:27 PM
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I've done that one.
I'm guilty of that as well. On the ole 200TDi, but was on Nantucket and had access to a drill and drilled out the viscous housing and injected silicone that hardens (from a caulking gun)!!!!
Yes it worked!
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Awesome thread keep it coming.
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I could go for days if this post was about Land Rovers in general, but here are a couple I've seen recently. This first one is a thermostat that someone likely crushed between the intake and thermostat housing. I'm sure it leaked, and they fixed it, but the thermostat was damaged allowing too much coolant past it.



This second one is a dash that had been cut to install this dash pod. The sad part is that this is a 17k mile truck and the owner would have payed to have it done correctly, but another shop said they could do the work. This is the outcome...



That same truck someone replaced one of the wiper wheel boxes and didn't remove the cable. They just pried the wheel box open to get the cable in, rather than feeding the cable through the wheel box. The repair didn't last very long.
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Old August 20th, 2014, 07:17 PM
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I don't have pictures but I had a 110 that when I removed the license plate I discovered the PO had used drywall anchors to replace the original threaded insert that had clearly been yanked out of the sheet metal where the plate attached... Do I win...?
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Somewhere around here I have a drag link that is sleeved with a high lift handle after a boulder @ Rausch Creek took out the steering on my 130. Trevor and John came up with that idea.
I rolled like that for 6 mos
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I don't have pictures but I had a 110 that when I removed the license plate I discovered the PO had used drywall anchors to replace the original threaded insert that had clearly been yanked out of the sheet metal where the plate attached... Do I win...?
What about the one with the awesome stickers. So awesome, they masked them before the respray.


Or the double cab with the homemade roof panel, that truck probably wins this thread.


I once had a P38 in the shop with a bad battery drain, would kill a full charge overnight. The owner had installed a battery cut off switch in the driver's footwell and used house wiring to complete the circuit. It still had the staples on it where he ripped it out of the wall.

Another P38, the owner had disconnected one of the small coolant lines off of the expansion tank and installed a short hose, then plugged the open end of that hose with the probe of an aftermarket temperature gauge.

There are a couple local Rover shops that specialize in rigging shit up, I could go on for days about shit I have witnessed going on in these places...
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