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Old September 28th, 2016, 01:18 AM
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thank you guys!, if someone can tell me the total lengh of the LS engine from the pump to the back joke with a 6l80 and the adapter to a lp230? is for a 101 proyect.


Which LS? LS3 or truck LS (LC9,LMG,L94)


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Old September 28th, 2016, 08:48 AM
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Which LS? LS3 or truck LS (LC9,LMG,L94)


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truck ls, I don't have it yet, maybe a gen V. My series have a lm7.
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Old September 28th, 2016, 09:39 AM
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truck ls, I don't have it yet, maybe a gen V. My series have a lm7.
My L94 is 140cm from water pump pulley tip to trans tail housing
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Old September 28th, 2016, 10:25 AM
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My L94 is 140cm from water pump pulley tip to trans tail housing


GenV won't fit. High pressure fuel pump will hit the steering box and the engine mounts have been relocated.


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Old September 28th, 2016, 11:31 AM
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GenV won't fit. High pressure fuel pump will hit the steering box and the engine mounts have been relocated.


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thanks markiw, it is great to know that before buy the engine. I was thinking l94 6.2 because of the size of the Forward control?, i know 5.3 have a lot of power too. I'm planning to build a camper on it.

can you pm values of the adapter + engine mounts?

do you have engine+6l80+adaptor+230 value package?

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My L94 is 140cm from water pump pulley tip to trans tail housing
you mean 140cm to tail of the tranfer case (yoke) or transmission?
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Old September 28th, 2016, 02:40 PM
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you mean 140cm to tail of the tranfer case (yoke) or transmission?
140cm to the transmission... Adapter= 6cm... LT230 = 29.5cm
140+6+29.5 =175.5cm (approx) from wp pulley nosetip to prop shaft mating face.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 01:45 AM
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I have a question related to DOD.

My engine is an L77.

I was prepared for an issue when turning around the inlet manifold with the oil pressure switch being on a riser on the closing plate.

However its possibly slightly more involved because of the DOD.

The oil that comes up to the pressure switch is then fed back down and along the top of the 4 de-ac lifters.

This is the cover plate with the oil pressure riser that gets in the way of the throttle body. next to it is the plug for the DOD De-ac lifters. You can see the raised section that goes along the middle in the casting which is the path the oil takes on its return from the pressure switch



So this is with the inlet and cover plate off.



And this is the underside of the cover plate:



Here is the return from the pressure switch:



Now looking at the same plate on the LS2 pics I can find it appears that the oil pressure riser just goes to the switch and is blind. Is that correct? Also the oil feeds that went to the lifters are blocked.





This image from a guy on another forum shows the path of the oil.



And this one shows the difference in where the oil goes when the de-ac lifter is deactivaed and activated. To me it looks like when the de-ac lifters are activated electroncially they allow the oil to bypass the lifter itself meaning the valves don't open. Am I correct here or miles off the mark?



So in short I guess my questions bearing in mind that the loom made for me by Speartech wont have the DOD enabled are:

1. Can I fit an LS2 closing plate and just block off the oil feed that was to the pressure switch. without causing any issues, or is the oil required at the top of the de-ac lifters even if they are disabled?

2. This plate would also block off all the feeds that come up in the 8 upstands. I know they are blocked on the cars without any DOD stuff. Would this cause any issues with the DOD lifters being left in place

If this will cause issues I may have to remove the entire DOD stuff, which I probably will do down the track but i was hoping to just get it running and see how it went first.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 09:48 AM
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I think you need to do the complete DOD delete, Texas Speed and others do kits with all the parts you need.... Cam, lifters etc.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 10:22 AM
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I had a brand new DOD engine malfunction and bend two pushrods shortly after startup, and ended up deleting the system. All you'll need are new lifters and a different valley pan cover without the solenoids.

I wouldn't risk running the DOD lifters with the oil galleys blocked off.

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Old September 30th, 2016, 12:06 PM
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Hmmm first I have heard of this need to figure out what to do since Rob was just about ready to fire mine up in the next week or two.

2011 LC9 I only flipped the manifold per the directions nothing else.
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Old September 30th, 2016, 03:26 PM
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Hmmm first I have heard of this need to figure out what to do since Rob was just about ready to fire mine up in the next week or two.

2011 LC9 I only flipped the manifold per the directions nothing else.
So how did you clear the oil pressure sender & sensor, looks to be a stack of work from this thread : Intake manifold reversal on AFM/DOD engine - LS1TECH
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Old September 30th, 2016, 04:12 PM
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Truck manifold fits fine, it's the car manifold that you'll have clearance issues with.

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I have a truck motor 2011 LC9 out of a 4x Silverado. Truck manifold clears I was more concerned about the oil and DOD issues mentioned. Not sure if they apply or not Here is a picture of the truck manifold after being reversed. Pic from my truck courtesy of Rob
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Old September 30th, 2016, 04:48 PM
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You can saw off the eop boss, pipe tap and plug. Then move the eop down to the oil cooler bypass.


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Thanks for the comments guys.

Nick. You reckon it will be ok to cut off and tap and plug that boss even if it blocks the return feed that goes back along the top of the de-ac lifters? If so that will be the quickest option to get it running as I can do that, refit the standard plate with all the de-ac lifters still in there but just mapped off in the ecu. Them move the oil pressure sensor

Swapping them out along with the cam and so on I am happy to do down the track but would like to get it going first
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I have a truck motor 2011 LC9 out of a 4x Silverado. Truck manifold clears I was more concerned about the oil and DOD issues mentioned. Not sure if they apply or not Here is a picture of the truck manifold after being reversed. Pic from my truck courtesy of Rob
Correct me if I'm wrong (Mark) but the L77 is a car engine with the lower inlet manifold, thought it was just the truck ones that needed flipping to clear the bonnet ?
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Snagged this pic of one of my FB pages I follow, guys going to post the file for the lift frame... nice
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The l77 is a car engine with the low manifold. I am flipping mine to get the air intake to the back as I need to run an airbox and the routing of pipework from the front to the rear would be a pain
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The l77 is a car engine with the low manifold. I am flipping mine to get the air intake to the back as I need to run an airbox and the routing of pipework from the front to the rear would be a pain
10:4, can you swap out to a truck intake to clear ?
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Thanks for the comments guys.



Nick. You reckon it will be ok to cut off and tap and plug that boss even if it blocks the return feed that goes back along the top of the de-ac lifters? If so that will be the quickest option to get it running as I can do that, refit the standard plate with all the de-ac lifters still in there but just mapped off in the ecu. Them move the oil pressure sensor



Swapping them out along with the cam and so on I am happy to do down the track but would like to get it going first


Let me talk to Turnkey. That's the solution they provide.



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10:4, can you swap out to a truck intake to clear ?


Yes, pay attention to the intake port configuration. (Cathedral ports or rectangle ports). 5.3l intake for the cathedral ports, 6.2l intake for rectangular ports.


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