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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:49 PM
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I assume you understand all 90s have side tanks until 1997 except NAS trucks. Most collisions are in the rear so it is not really any better back there.
How about all those ROW D90 & ex-mil trucks... Either way, reading the specs noted above its not a saddle tank as it falls within the outside of tires.... there protected by Southdown tank guards and heavy duty rock sliders. In any event, it'll spend 99% of its life in the forests around our little mountain town
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Old September 8th, 2016, 09:50 AM
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After having a custom press brake die/punch made and building a custom press brake adapter, I am able bend up the engine mounts. Correctly.
(gooseneck punch, 60/90/30 degree die)


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That thing is some serious garage tool porn! Hope everything is going well.


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Old September 8th, 2016, 10:20 AM
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Ok, front 637mm/25" got it.

I just took a good look at the rear and it looks like I have a Salisbury w/disc, so does anyone have drive length for LT230 - Salisbury.

FYI: this is a 88 D110

Thanks for everyones help with the front
Just measured it, exactly 1095mm.
However, you can use the TD5 as a guidance as its LT230 sits exactly as the NAS.

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Old September 8th, 2016, 04:20 PM
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Got the TD5 pedal to work... Kinda😆

Picked up a Corvette ls3 pedal, measured the sweep angle and found that it's identical to the td5 pedal sweep, 25 degrees.

Then I hacked the vette pedal and extracted the sensor, trimmed it with a dremel and cut a slot in its shaft.

Seems like a neat fit... need to test it on a C6.

However, in the midst of that, I found that the sensor in the td5 pedal is nothing but a GM truck DBW sensor of the 8.1 bb and the 6.5 diesels!!!

It's Dorman 699 207
http://www.dormanproducts.com/itemde...SEName=699-207

Used on this pedal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162111082086

I think this sensor talks to the ecu through a TAC module. It will be great if someone can make it work with E38.

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Old September 11th, 2016, 02:29 PM
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Is there a D90 thread to convert "Saddle bombs" to rear in-frame tanks?


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Old September 11th, 2016, 02:53 PM
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Is there a D90 thread to convert "Saddle bombs" to rear in-frame tanks? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I don't think so, shouldn't be that hard. Main job will be relocating the filler neck hole to the rear passenger side quarter panel. Anyway, why relocate... there are 1000's of D90's with side mounted tanks, let alone all the series ones too. Seems a lot of work.... just say'in.

Now... Back to LS goodness, we need more LS pic updates !
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Old September 12th, 2016, 02:27 PM
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Emissions

Nick

Rob at SWR is about to get rolling on my complete restoration/LS conversion of my 1995 NAS D90 ST. Yes, I'm the oddball going with Kolby's Gen IV L94 driving a new Advanced Adapter's NV4500 5-Speed/GM Bell Housing and GM internal slave clutch. Yes, it would be nice if Rob starts a new thread; but that's up to him. But I'll try and post any issues he runs into, if he doesn't.

But my question is back to emissions as I'm just cleaning up a few remaining parts. Oh and I think we're still waiting on a radiator.

First, thanks for all the detail as far as CA emissions, but what if a guy simply wants to maintain the stock or we'll call it airframe EVAP equipment. If we replace the tank vents and pipes, the rear mounted EVAP Vapor Separator and pipes (OEM Land Rover parts); is it better to go with the LR charcoal canister and then sort how to connect the LR pipe to the GM intake. Or is it better to go with the GM canister (solves engine connections but adds GM bracket to LR frame issues) and then sort connecting the rear airframe mounted separator to the FWD GM canister?

My county doesn't require emissions, but Albuquerque does and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before that changes. But for me, it's more about maintaining the vehicle as a minimum the way it was built in 1995 (OBD-I but EVAP system that's passive and not tied to ECM).

Any suggestions or is anyone maintaining the LR EVAP system with this Gen IV conversion?
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Old September 12th, 2016, 02:46 PM
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I cant offer any advice on the emissions/evap front but want to say the L94/NV4500/LT230 combo is what dreams are made of. The only way to add to it would be with some tweaks to the LT230 like 1:1 high range and ATB center diff.

Lovely.
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Old September 12th, 2016, 02:48 PM
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Saddle bombs...love it!
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Old September 12th, 2016, 02:50 PM
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I spy my 90 behind your frame. Wonder how many LS conversions Rob has going now.
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Old September 12th, 2016, 02:51 PM
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Done...Ha! Rob at SWR builds LT230s and is making that happen. Complete rebuilt axles and True Trac diffs as well!

------ Follow up post added September 12th, 2016 10:54 PM ------

Dave_Lucas Sweet! And that's the Disco with the LS too! No idea how many, but I'd say business is good!
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Old September 13th, 2016, 03:51 PM
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Got the TD5 pedal to work... Kinda😆

Picked up a Corvette ls3 pedal, measured the sweep angle and found that it's identical to the td5 pedal sweep, 25 degrees.

Then I hacked the vette pedal and extracted the sensor, trimmed it with a dremel and cut a slot in its shaft.

Seems like a neat fit... need to test it on a C6.

However, in the midst of that, I found that the sensor in the td5 pedal is nothing but a GM truck DBW sensor of the 8.1 bb and the 6.5 diesels!!!

It's Dorman 699 207
Dorman Products - 699-207

Used on this pedal
Standard Motor Products APS130 Accelerator Pedal Sensor | eBay

I think this sensor talks to the ecu through a TAC module. It will be great if someone can make it work with E38.

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So the E38/E67 doesn't require a TAC module. Only the older computers need that.
I have the 2-track Td5 pedal here that I have made an electrical adapter for. Just haven't gotten to the APP tables in the computer yet.
There are two pedals for the Td5. 2-track and 3-track. I don't know if their ohmic specs are different. The GM ecm only needs 2-tracks (potentiometers).
Once I figure out the tables, it should be a plug in.

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Nick

Rob at SWR is about to get rolling on my complete restoration/LS conversion of my 1995 NAS D90 ST. Yes, I'm the oddball going with Kolby's Gen IV L94 driving a new Advanced Adapter's NV4500 5-Speed/GM Bell Housing and GM internal slave clutch. Yes, it would be nice if Rob starts a new thread; but that's up to him. But I'll try and post any issues he runs into, if he doesn't.

But my question is back to emissions as I'm just cleaning up a few remaining parts. Oh and I think we're still waiting on a radiator.

First, thanks for all the detail as far as CA emissions, but what if a guy simply wants to maintain the stock or we'll call it airframe EVAP equipment. If we replace the tank vents and pipes, the rear mounted EVAP Vapor Separator and pipes (OEM Land Rover parts); is it better to go with the LR charcoal canister and then sort how to connect the LR pipe to the GM intake. Or is it better to go with the GM canister (solves engine connections but adds GM bracket to LR frame issues) and then sort connecting the rear airframe mounted separator to the FWD GM canister?

My county doesn't require emissions, but Albuquerque does and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before that changes. But for me, it's more about maintaining the vehicle as a minimum the way it was built in 1995 (OBD-I but EVAP system that's passive and not tied to ECM).

Any suggestions or is anyone maintaining the LR EVAP system with this Gen IV conversion?
Regarding the emissions. The issue is the EVAP. All new computers will only run advanced EVAPs. LR switched in '98-1/2 to advanced EVAPs. You can't make the E38 only support a conister and purge valve. Your best bet is to connect the vacuum hose to the LR purge valve/canister in the wing and connect the purge valve wiring. It won't be functional.

Advanced EVAPS...
purge valve
vent valve
fuel tank pressure sensor
charcoal canister
old style EVAPs...
purge valve
charcoal canister
It all comes down to what the state requires.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 03:39 AM
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Thanks for the emissions reply, and I completely missed that even in 1995 the solenoid on the LR canister (purge valve) was connected to the ECU. And that's the rub. The new L94 ECM is an all or nothing option, meaning you can't just connect the LR purge valve (solenoid on stock LR canister) with the rest of the stock system (tank vents and rear evaporator separator) and call it up to 1995 standards because the new L94 ECM needs all the inputs as you stated in post# 1497 (CA compliance) or nothing.

But after looking at the GM parts required in the BOM (purge valve, vent valve, canister, psi switch, and an additional jumper wire = +$225); they are much cheaper than replacing the LR EVAP system parts, excluding the additional cost for the CA Y-pipe (+ $550). So it's possibly worth it to me to install the system now even though they won't be formally tested now. Although Rob may have a completely different take on the subject )

But hopefully, without asking the same dumb questions over and over, can you clarify post #1497 for me and that might help my decision.

1. Does the CA Y-Pipe include the 3rd CAT and the additional 2 EA O2 Sensors required (hence the additional +$550)?
2. Does my new L94 harness from Kolby include the connections for the additional O2 Sensors?
3. "EVAP System...The Bitch". Does my new L94 harness also include the connections to the new GM EVAP system components (purge valve, vent valve, tank psi switch)?
4. Is the fuel sender to ECM connection the only additional harness component that needs to be added/fabricated, assuming Q#3 is a yes?
5. To summarize: besides the additional $775 in parts; is connecting or creating the harness from the fuel sender to the ECM, and additional ECM programming the only real additional labor?
6. And I guess I overlooked actually installing the new tank psi switch in the tank. Is that a difficult task with the tank out and on the floor during the pump replacement?

I'm not trying to minimize the work involved in CA compliance, just trying to make an educated decision on the best course of action, labor/cost comparison while the vehicle is essentially being rebuilt from the frame up. Especially now that you've educated me that the two options are: 1.) Completely remove all of the factory installed airframe emissions/EVAP system and flash the new ECM to ignore, or 2.) Go complete CA compliance. Which in reality, option one is not really 49 state compliance either as you're now configuring your NAS D90 to pre-1994/1995 standards, or in other words no standard. Which like you said may or may not fly depending on where you operate your vehicle.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 04:06 AM
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Last thing and I swear I'll shut up...for now anyway...Ha!

Is it a possible middle ground option to keep the factory installed rear EVAP separator and it's connection to the two tank vents, but cap the connection from it to the forward canister at the separator. Then remove the forward factory canister system all together and press on with the rest of option 1 above.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 03:46 PM
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Hey guys, I'm trying to get new rubber mounts for the transfer case. There are a bunch of rubber mounts listed. I have stc434 (supposedly for v8), nrc9560, ntc5890. Technically, I am using the brackets from a D1 per the BOM. Are these basically the same thing, just different numbers or is there a specific one that I need? Also, does brand matter on this one (LR, bearmach, etc.)? My last load of parts are coming from Nick at the same time that my harness is coming from from Speartech. I almost have everything I need to scab the engine in, except for the 110 back from paint. Getting excited.
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Old September 14th, 2016, 04:22 PM
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Hey guys, I'm trying to get new rubber mounts for the transfer case. There are a bunch of rubber mounts listed. I have stc434 (supposedly for v8), nrc9560, ntc5890. Technically, I am using the brackets from a D1 per the BOM. Are these basically the same thing, just different numbers or is there a specific one that I need? Also, does brand matter on this one (LR, bearmach, etc.)? My last load of parts are coming from Nick at the same time that my harness is coming from from Speartech. I almost have everything I need to scab the engine in, except for the 110 back from paint. Getting excited.
The round rubber Trans mounts for Disco 1, RRC, Defender will work. I wouldn't worry about the brand on this particular part.

LR Direct has em for $2.81 each.

https://www.lrdirect.com/STC434-Kit-...keep_https=yes
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Old September 19th, 2016, 04:16 PM
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Clark,

Yes this will fit RRC, and D1 using the low intake manifold. The kit is not ready. We are close to having a couple Defenders on the road. The first run of adapters have been sold. Once I get the bill of materials finalized, we will have a cost. I then make another run of adapters and brackets.

I will be supplying...
adapter
diff lock lever
alt/ps bracket
engine mounts
Lokar brackets (Defender only)
Y-pipe

These parts a-la-carte . The rest of the parts are off-the-shelf and the builder's responsibility.
are these kits still available? tried to send a pm but not sure if was sent,if so will you ship international [uk]?
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Old September 19th, 2016, 06:38 PM
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are these kits still available? tried to send a pm but not sure if was sent,if so will you ship international [uk]?

atb paul


You pm'd me 18 hours ago. Give me a day reply!


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Old September 19th, 2016, 11:20 PM
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You pm'd me 18 hours ago. Give me a day reply!


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ok thanks
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[sorry if i came across as a little impatient,just a little bit excited that this may be possible]
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Old September 19th, 2016, 11:39 PM
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ok thanks
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classic considering how long it takes UK vendors to reply...if ever
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