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Old August 31st, 2016, 04:52 PM
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Ashcroft do an ATB for it too - suppose it's only a small premium on top of the actual engine and box by the time you get them to the UK...
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Old September 4th, 2016, 01:22 PM
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engine mounts back in stock

After having a custom press brake die/punch made and building a custom press brake adapter, I am able bend up the engine mounts. Correctly.
(gooseneck punch, 60/90/30 degree die)
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Old September 5th, 2016, 04:59 PM
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RRC/D1 Propshaft

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Can't remember where I snagged this but it'll help...

GL-EXT-649
Working length 685mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi
Fits RRC front with Borg Warner transfer box

GL-EXT-632
Working length 667mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi

GL-EXT-605
Working length 637mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front 300Tdi/Td5
Fits Discovery 1Front 200Tdi/300Tdi
Fits RRC Front 200Tdi/300Tdi with LT230 transfer box
Fits Discovery 2 TD5 with a Defender transfer box flange STC4370

GL-EXT-685
Working length 720mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 300Tdi/Td5

GL-EXT-665
Working length 700mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front PUMA

GL-EXT-610
Working length 645mm + -
Fits Defender 90

GL-EXT -1010
Working length 1045mm + -
Fits Defender 110 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi With Salisbury Rear Axle.

GL-EXT-632
Working length 667mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi


GL-EXT-1060
Working length 1095mm + -
Fits Defender 110 Rear 300Tdi/Td5 With Salisbury Rear Axle & Disc Brakes.

-EXT-845
Working length 887mm + -
Fits Discovery 1 Rear 200Tdi/300Tdi
Fits RRC Rear 200Tdi/300Tdi
Can someone please give the front and rear shaft length needed.
FYI I am thinking of ordering from Tom's or GRB so I need to know what length to tell them.

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Old September 5th, 2016, 06:29 PM
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If your setup is non standard you would be best off measuring and ordering exactly what you need.
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Old September 5th, 2016, 06:48 PM
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If your setup is non standard you would be best off measuring and ordering exactly what you need.
I am trying to keep build time to a minimum so I am will to chance it.
What are all the ROW 110 guys using?
I would have never guessed there were so many shaft length configuration :face palm:
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Old September 5th, 2016, 06:52 PM
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Front: should be 637mm... Rear: depends on your axle... Not sure though... That's what I have I'm taking my chances too

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Old September 5th, 2016, 06:57 PM
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Used a Tom Woods double cardon on the front. Mine 25" between mating surfaces.
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Old September 6th, 2016, 05:05 PM
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Front: should be 637mm... Rear: depends on your axle... Not sure though... That's what I have I'm taking my chances too

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Ok, front 637mm/25" got it.

I just took a good look at the rear and it looks like I have a Salisbury w/disc, so does anyone have drive length for LT230 - Salisbury.

FYI: this is a 88 D110

Thanks for everyones help with the front
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Old September 6th, 2016, 06:32 PM
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Ok, front 637mm/25" got it.

I just took a good look at the rear and it looks like I have a Salisbury w/disc, so does anyone have drive length for LT230 - Salisbury.

FYI: this is a 88 D110

Thanks for everyones help with the front
Then should it be 1095mm... Working length that is.
However, I'll measure mine and reconfirm tomorrow after work... It's 1:30 AM here

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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:53 AM
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I have a couple of emission questions concerning the BOM list. Nick has the canister, vent valve, and fuel tank pressure sensor listed as "if required." So, is that something that I need to pass emissions in CA, or is it something that I need so that the computer doesn't keep on showing a check engine light. I guess, how do I know that I need it. Just trying to tie up loose ends. Thanks
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:57 AM
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Those are components that are for CA compliance only. Otherwise you have the ECM flashed to not look for signal from them.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 12:38 PM
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Also, will the walbro pump listed (F20000141) work for my 1985 metal gas tank that has an in-tank pump? I know this was originally set up for the NAS, just wasn't sure if that is what I need to replace mine. Thanks
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Old September 7th, 2016, 12:56 PM
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I've only dealt with steel tanks that have external pumps, but here's nothing particularly special about that Walbro pump so it ought to drop in as a replacement for what you have. Also be sure to get the Airtex FS38 screen. I don't think Nick has that called out on the BOM and you'll definitely want it to keep that pump healthy.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 01:10 PM
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Also, will the walbro pump listed (F20000141) work for my 1985 metal gas tank that has an in-tank pump? I know this was originally set up for the NAS, just wasn't sure if that is what I need to replace mine. Thanks
Here is how I did my pump, this is for a side, under seat tank.



My tanks are custom but basically same as the OEM steel one, just a bit more capacity.

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Old September 7th, 2016, 10:34 PM
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Here is how I did my pump, this is for a side, under seat tank.



My tanks are custom but basically same as the OEM steel one, just a bit more capacity.

Wow! Saddle bombs. Not legal in the US.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 10:47 PM
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Wow! Saddle bombs. Not legal in the US.
Link to law making them illegal?
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Old September 7th, 2016, 10:53 PM
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I have a couple of emission questions concerning the BOM list. Nick has the canister, vent valve, and fuel tank pressure sensor listed as "if required." So, is that something that I need to pass emissions in CA, or is it something that I need so that the computer doesn't keep on showing a check engine light. I guess, how do I know that I need it. Just trying to tie up loose ends. Thanks
Step back a moment if you are trying do this CA and register it. There is a long list of things have to be done. I will outline a few...
1. Y-pipe with three original GM cats.
2. Doner VIN must be 1/2 ton truck or SUV and be the same year or newer. No 3/4 or 1 ton.
3. Cold air intake must be CARB approved and have an E.O. sticker.
4. EVAP system. This is the bitch. Must have purge valve, vent valve, GM charcoal canister, and fuel tank pressure sensor connected and working.
5. Fuel sender must be wired into the ECM.
6. Fuel tank table must be changed and accurately reflect fuel tank level and volume for fuel volatility, pressure, and vacuum to be calculated correctly.
6. Four mandatory I/M monitors must run and complete.
Catalyst
EVAP
HO2S/O2S
HO2S Heater
7. No DTCs registered. (Current, Pending, or Permanent)
8. Find a conversion friendly state referee.
9. Smoke pressure test the fuel tank and EVAP lines to verify it will have 1psi overnight. (most vent grommets must be replaced)
The inspection takes 90 minutes. They will clear the codes at the end and expect all monitors to change back to not ready. There is no fudging with these guys. Normal CA smog allows one monitor to be no ready. The inspection requires all four.
It will take about a week to get through all the drive cycles once everything is working correctly in mode $06 to get all the monitors in a ready state.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:12 PM
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Link to law making them illegal?
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulation...section/393.67

Jan 1, 1973 seems to be the cutoff. Unless it came from the factory with the tank. Detroit removed all saddle tanks, and in cab tanks and moved all tanks to within the frame in the '70s.
I wouldn't want to be in a T-bone collision with one of those. Just my 2 cents. Nothing really keeping people from installing them.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:17 PM
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I assume you understand all 90s have side tanks until 1997 except NAS trucks. Most collisions are in the rear so it is not really any better back there.
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Old September 7th, 2016, 11:23 PM
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I think the idea is that the point of combustion, if it were to occur, is substantially further away from the occupants with the tank being in the rear. That's interesting though...I never knew saddle tanks weren't legal outside of a factory application.

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