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Old July 9th, 2016, 04:37 PM
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lol... no! thats what i mean! I left the front one connected to the front diff, and the rear one connected to the rear diff. went to attach the front and it is to long. Even all the way pushed in, it won't clear the bolts. I'll post up some pics shortly.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 04:50 PM
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Here are a few pics. Used correct mount brackets as per bom. Did have to cut right side (us Defender/d1) to fit however.

sorry for the orientation
1. upside down pic of left side (drivers US, i.e. Right side of pic is towards rear of car.)
2. upside down pic of right side (passenger US IE left side of pic is towards rear of car)
3. Front shaft all the way pushed in, no way it will clear bolts. (it did come out this way though...)
4. Rear shaft. I just pulled the shaft out, didn't really tug on it, but it looks a long way off... unless it will extend farther.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 04:55 PM
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Good news is custom driveshafts are only like $300 a pop!
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Old July 9th, 2016, 05:24 PM
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Good news is custom driveshafts are only like $300 a pop!
yea but the whole point of this kit was leaving original drivetrain untouched...
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Old July 9th, 2016, 05:51 PM
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yea but the whole point of this kit was leaving original drivetrain untouched...
Correct, as your drive line is all in and your t'case is back in its original location (as the passenger side mount has not changed I assume), I think the issue is in the drive shafts. Sounds like there jammed up on the splines... Just a thought.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:03 PM
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I only had to switch from the original lt77 T-case mounts to the defender/d1 style. I'll keep working on it tomorrow.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:06 PM
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I only had to switch from the original lt77 T-case mounts to the defender/d1 style. I'll keep working on it tomorrow.
But you only changed the drivers side, the passenger side is the original..... Correct ?

What was the truck manual or auto ?
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:07 PM
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Is the lt230 still In the same place? Also like others have said he you disassembled the driveshafts and greased the extension splines?
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:19 PM
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LT230 should be in the same place. it is currently sitting in the defender style mounts on both sides. I had to change the driver side (US) as the LT77 mount was completely different from the defender style. I also switched the passenger side (US) to the defender style mount, as i was told the original mount would not fit... not really sure why though... I can try and swap in the old one and see what happens, but not sure how it would change as the TC in already in, bolted up, and sitting pretty as is.

Haven't disassembled the drive shafts yet.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:42 PM
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Well if the location of the lt230 hasn't changed the trans and engine location have nothing to do with driveshaft length.

There is a possibility that when you disconnected the shafts that the axles slightly rotated on the Bushings due to spring pressure. This could account for some of the gap. Also when off the truck the shafts may have compressed... Have you tried just putting one end on the ground between your feet and pulling up on the shaft... Hard? They are designed to lengthen and shorten over rough terrain.



Red circled area is where they lengthen and shorten, they is the area that should be greased or have a grease nipple. Generic pic


If you do disassemble them make sure to mark them so that they go back together the same way.. They are phased
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:49 PM
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What was the truck manual or auto ?
What engine & transmission was in it to begin with... it makes a difference to drive shaft lengths as you have changed both t'case mounts !
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Old July 9th, 2016, 06:56 PM
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What engine & transmission was in it to begin with... it makes a difference to drive shaft lengths as you have changed both t'case mounts !
He said that the tcase mounts were the same... The lt77 mounts were different... Or. Am I misreading?
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:11 PM
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He said that the tcase mounts were the same... The lt77 mounts were different... Or. Am I misreading?
Ok... a 90/110 with a 2.5/2.5tdi/200tdi, LT77 and Lt230 t'case has a front drive shaft that has a working length of 685mm, a RRC/D1 with the LT230 t'case has a front drive shaft that's got a working length of 637mm. A difference of almost 2" that'd prob stop the drive shaft fitting onto the t'case flange.

See what I mean, the difference is in the brackets. They move the t'case back & forwards to accommodate the difference in the transmission lengths. I'm thinking he'll need a front & rear drive shaft off a RRC/D1.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:17 PM
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yes, manual,LT77 and a 2.5td.

the actual construction of the Drivers side (us) mount differs from what is on an Autobox. the passenger side (us) mount is almost identical.

------ Follow up post added July 9th, 2016 08:18 PM ------

so i've got to to get new drive shafts too? Mother f%$#@%^#$
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:23 PM
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so i've got to to get new drive shafts too? Mother f%$#@%^#$
Where are you? I'm replacing my Borg with an lt230q on one of my RRC LWBs. I'll need a disco front shaft for the swap and can give you my classic front shaft if you need it. If you are west coast it might work out.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:30 PM
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West coast... of florida! lol. Apparently i'll need both shafts now. are the shafts from a D1 the same as the defender? RRC? or do i need to buy more crap from england?
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:33 PM
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yes, manual,LT77 and a 2.5td. the actual construction of the Drivers side (us) mount differs from what is on an Autobox. the passenger side (us) mount is almost identical. ------ Follow up post added July 9th, 2016 08:18 PM ------ so i've got to to get new drive shafts too? Mother f%$#@%^#$
Check the classifieds - I have a 300tdi front DS that was rebuilt and balanced that I'm selling. You might be able to resell your 2.5/200tdi shaft for the same or close price.
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:35 PM
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Im on the east coast of florida and have one of Nicks Ls conversion in my truck if you want to come take a look. I used my stock rear driveshaft and a front shaft from a junkyard D1..
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:36 PM
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Can't remember where I snagged this but it'll help...

GL-EXT-649
Working length 685mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi
Fits RRC front with Borg Warner transfer box

GL-EXT-632
Working length 667mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi

GL-EXT-605
Working length 637mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front 300Tdi/Td5
Fits Discovery 1Front 200Tdi/300Tdi
Fits RRC Front 200Tdi/300Tdi with LT230 transfer box
Fits Discovery 2 TD5 with a Defender transfer box flange STC4370

GL-EXT-685
Working length 720mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 300Tdi/Td5

GL-EXT-665
Working length 700mm + -
Fits Defender 90/110 Front PUMA

GL-EXT-610
Working length 645mm + -
Fits Defender 90

GL-EXT -1010
Working length 1045mm + -
Fits Defender 110 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi With Salisbury Rear Axle.

GL-EXT-632
Working length 667mm + -
Fits Defender 90 Rear 2.5/2.5Td/200Tdi


GL-EXT-1060
Working length 1095mm + -
Fits Defender 110 Rear 300Tdi/Td5 With Salisbury Rear Axle & Disc Brakes.

-EXT-845
Working length 887mm + -
Fits Discovery 1 Rear 200Tdi/300Tdi
Fits RRC Rear 200Tdi/300Tdi
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Old July 9th, 2016, 07:45 PM
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so, of all those, what matches up the stock Rover V8 that nick made all these parts to work with?

RRC? 300tdi? i'm so confused...

------ Follow up post added July 9th, 2016 08:47 PM ------

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. I'm thinking he'll need a front & rear drive shaft off a RRC/D1.
ah, Just re-read this! Thanks!
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