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Old January 18th, 2016, 01:32 PM
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This configuration does NOT support any 4-speed automatic transmissions. 6L80e only and that requires the Gen IV engine.

Mark's 4wd Adapters has a 4L80e adapter. Be prepared to relocate the LT230 with their configuration.
With your kit will the LT230 stay in the same location as the stock T-case? 95' LWB RR
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:23 PM
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With your kit will the LT230 stay in the same location as the stock T-case? 95' LWB RR
Correct.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:09 PM
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This configuration does NOT support any 4-speed automatic transmissions. 6L80e only and that requires the Gen IV engine.

Mark's 4wd Adapters has a 4L80e adapter. Be prepared to relocate the LT230 with their configuration.
Or go with Gen III and a manual NV4500 if that'd work for you as it keeps it in the stock location.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:24 PM
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Or go with Gen III and a manual NV4500 if that'd work for you as it keeps it in the stock location.
Not in a Classic. The shifter would end up under the dash.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 10:40 PM
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Expansion Tank

New product...
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Old January 24th, 2016, 03:15 PM
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Umm.... 4" off the MAF I believe....

I was looking at one of these for a snorkel setup :

Ump 4 Inch Super Air Filter With 8 Inch Extra Long Canister For Engines That Have 250Hp To 300Hp

Or you could use a truck filter like on Rob's ORA Eurofighter....
thoughts on this? inline air box

3inch inlet/outlet, and 4 inch o/d so should be able to squeeze it in somewhere (even integrate it into a snorkel).
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Old January 24th, 2016, 04:32 PM
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thoughts on this? inline air box

3inch inlet/outlet, and 4 inch o/d so should be able to squeeze it in somewhere (even integrate it into a snorkel).
I think that it'll be restrictive being only 3".... was looking at making something like this with a 4" inlet/outlet :

Air Box (Universal)

This is an interesting design, could do something along these lines quite easily.....

http://www.millweld.com/a/Airboxes

Another option might be using a commercial truck filter in a custom housing, sort of like a Donaldson.... but got to get my sch'd 40 manifolds made first though
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Old January 24th, 2016, 05:02 PM
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Sent a pm regarding price. But does anybody know the total overal length of a 5.3/6l80/230? Trying to cram it into a series project....
I come up with approx 69" from the front of the water pump pulley to the end of the drive flange bolts on the transfer case.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 08:51 AM
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Apologize for the Hijack, or if Nic has already posted this; but can someone tell me the exact distance from bell housing to the back of the LT230 case using Nic's adapter. I see 69" total above, and the engine is 28.75" from front pulley to flywheel, which leaves approx. 40.25". But hoping someone can give me the exact dimension.

I'm just trying to compare Nic's set-up to Rakeway's T56/LT230 set-up or their TKO600/LT230 Set-Up, to see if the rest of Nic's Gen 4 set-up (mounts, radiator, etc...) will work.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 10:19 AM
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Apologize for the Hijack, or if Nic has already posted this; but can someone tell me the exact distance from bell housing to the back of the LT230 case using Nic's adapter. I see 69" total above, and the engine is 28.75" from front pulley to flywheel, which leaves approx. 40.25". But hoping someone can give me the exact dimension.

I'm just trying to compare Nic's set-up to Rakeway's T56/LT230 set-up or their TKO600/LT230 Set-Up, to see if the rest of Nic's Gen 4 set-up (mounts, radiator, etc...) will work.
I measure approximately 40.25" from the front of the bell housing to the back of the drive shaft flange on the LT230. 41.5" to the end of the drive shaft flange bolts.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 05:09 PM
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Great idea to put that heat deflecting fabric around the engine mount rubber... I should consider that the next time I change them.
If your take out motor comes with the original heat shields you can reuse them. If you are getting your motor from a salvage yard, ask them to include the shields.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 08:43 PM
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Nick, I've been looking at your product for a while and this conversion something I am going to want to do (maybe not right away, looking at putting together a summer project). Can you PM me the pricing on the adapter for converting an 84 2.5 N/A Diesel D90?

Also I was wondering if there were any technical limitation on putting in the new 8 speed transmission, from what I can tell the size is just about the same as the 6 speed and as I would like to source a new transmission anyway, it seems to make sense to get the newest and shiniest of GMs transmissions. Alternatively (and I know this one is a stretch) what is the limitation on using a TR6060 manual transmission? That trans seems like it would bolt up in nearly the same way as the 6 speed auto and would give people an option to go manual that isn't from an orphaned manufacturer like the NV4500.

Thanks.
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Old January 25th, 2016, 11:58 PM
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If your take out motor comes with the original heat shields you can reuse them. If you are getting your motor from a salvage yard, ask them to include the shields.
Nice.
I have a pair of these laying around. I will see if I can find a GM part number.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 09:43 AM
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Nick, I was reading back through the thread again and spotted you'd mentioned you were thinking of doing reflashed BCM's with harnesses (rather than just the whole engine harness) - are you still doing that?

I've just started on reworking my factory harness, so could use any info you have on what wires I need to leave for you're bcm harness if you are...
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Old January 26th, 2016, 10:39 AM
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Alternatively (and I know this one is a stretch) what is the limitation on using a TR6060 manual transmission? That trans seems like it would bolt up in nearly the same way as the 6 speed auto and would give people an option to go manual that isn't from an orphaned manufacturer like the NV4500. Thanks.
The TR6060 is only RWD isn't it.... you have to go to a Tranzilla box if you want 4WD and that's $$$$$
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:18 PM
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Thanks Nick for the adapter. Great stuff.
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:24 PM
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sweet..what coil covers are those?
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:32 PM
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Wow, beautiful engine compartment! Looks great, almost too nice to get dirty!!
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Old January 26th, 2016, 04:56 PM
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I used the stock pedal and bolted the truck pedal that came with the motor to the outside of the bulkhead. Ran the throttle cable through the LS pedal arm so that the cable would depress the LS pedal when you stepped on the stock pedal. this was a rough mock up before i trimmed the cable and added washer etc. Ultimately i abandoned this set up and bit the bullet and bought the lokar. there was just not enough travel for me to feel safe. felt like almost instant WOT. Im sure there is a version of this that could work but didnt experiment further with it.

In a cost savings effort, has anyone tried the Corvette ETC pedal? It's $100 from Speartech instead of $400 for Lokar pedal and control module.

Corvette ETC Pedal
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Old January 26th, 2016, 07:25 PM
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In a cost savings effort, has anyone tried the Corvette ETC pedal? It's $100 from Speartech instead of $400 for Lokar pedal and control module.

Corvette ETC Pedal


Yes and there are side by side photos in my Defender 50th LS2 / 6l80 Build At the time the mods looked easy but the pedal has to be shortened and changed from a RH to LH offset and the vertical angle changed. During this process I managed to damage the sensor due to a stupid mistake with the vice. I ended up buying the Lokar Peddal as I wasn't game to keep shipping them to OZ



On a side note, I have just ordered my dash from Dakota Digital and was wondering if anyone has used the GM Drive by wire cruse control kit... Cruise Control for GM LS Drive-by-Wire Engines
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