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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:15 PM
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I have a GM compressor and mounting bracket from a LC9 with 30,000 miles I wont be using as my 110 is RHD and going to Alaska....Free A/C their every day....

------ Follow up post added November 30th, 2015 05:05 PM ------

Will this trans work for my LS swap and is it a good price? Is all wheel drive considered the same as a 4x4 trans? I have a 2010 LC9 out of a Silverado 4X4.

https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/pts/5322501615.html
The computers are not compatible. Pre-2010 and 2010 on. Also, the years for the ECM & TCM need to match. The TCM can be reflashed with a different OS. The ECM can't.
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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:24 PM
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The computers are not compatible. Pre-2010 and 2010 on. Also, the years for the ECM & TCM need to match. The TCM can be reflashed with a different OS. The ECM can't.

Crap, ok thank you! So basically I have to find a 2010 6L80? or buy a new ECM?
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Old November 30th, 2015, 07:36 PM
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Crap, ok thank you! So basically I have to find a 2010 6L80? or buy a new ECM?
You can buy a new ECM (E38) and have it flashed to match that transmission.
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Old December 1st, 2015, 08:12 AM
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Greetings Gents:

I've just registered with the forum so I can participate in this thread. I have two Disco IIs just past the 100k mile mark and they can no longer be trusted for extended trips due to the leaking, failure-prone engines. Like a lot of you, I've dreamt of owning a Land Rover with an LS drive train. I think there is a large potential market for an LS power solution for the Disco IIs as these vehicles sold in fairly large numbers. Once the engines fail, the value is equal to scrap metal and used parts due to the ridiculous cost of repairing and rebuilding the Rover V8. This is very sad as these are otherwise very solid and practical vehicles. Big Props to Nicholas for this pioneering effort! Any updates on the progress for a Disco II LS power solution?

Thanks!
Scott
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Old December 1st, 2015, 04:05 PM
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Greetings Gents:

I've just registered with the forum so I can participate in this thread. I have two Disco IIs just past the 100k mile mark and they can no longer be trusted for extended trips due to the leaking, failure-prone engines. Like a lot of you, I've dreamt of owning a Land Rover with an LS drive train. I think there is a large potential market for an LS power solution for the Disco IIs as these vehicles sold in fairly large numbers. Once the engines fail, the value is equal to scrap metal and used parts due to the ridiculous cost of repairing and rebuilding the Rover V8. This is very sad as these are otherwise very solid and practical vehicles. Big Props to Nicholas for this pioneering effort! Any updates on the progress for a Disco II LS power solution?

Thanks!
Scott
Scott,
I am planning to start on the D2 over the holidays. I will keep everyone updated. There seems to be a lot of interest.

Nick
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 02:58 AM
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the L92 I'm getting is coming with the GM air con pump - any reason I cant use that rather than the Sanden one with the LR AC kit?
I just finished fitting my Sanden pump with Kwik Performance brackets It all works so well there is little reason to try anything else. I have used this pump (NEW Sanden Style HD AG AC Compressor U4712 | eBay) as I liked port positions. The pulley has a couple of extra groves but it seems to work fine...

20151201_173042 by James Elphick, on Flickr
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Old December 6th, 2015, 02:06 AM
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nicks kit is great. Weld in mounts now installed. Jig worked great and parts look top notch. Thanks again...
Where do we get the jig? Are there plans to make one?
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Old December 6th, 2015, 07:56 AM
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Where do we get the jig? Are there plans to make one?
Meant to say, "are there diagrams available to make a jig?". Also know where to buy a jig?
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Old December 6th, 2015, 12:14 PM
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Meant to say, "are there diagrams available to make a jig?". Also know where to buy a jig?
Nick ships the alignment jig with the weld in engine mounts. You bolt it in using the steering box holes, align the engine mount, tack and finish weld.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 01:16 PM
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Greetings Gents:

I've just registered with the forum so I can participate in this thread. I have two Disco IIs just past the 100k mile mark and they can no longer be trusted for extended trips due to the leaking, failure-prone engines. Like a lot of you, I've dreamt of owning a Land Rover with an LS drive train. I think there is a large potential market for an LS power solution for the Disco IIs as these vehicles sold in fairly large numbers. Once the engines fail, the value is equal to scrap metal and used parts due to the ridiculous cost of repairing and rebuilding the Rover V8. This is very sad as these are otherwise very solid and practical vehicles. Big Props to Nicholas for this pioneering effort! Any updates on the progress for a Disco II LS power solution?

Thanks!
Scott
hmmm, what year D2…only issues with them was 03-04 oil pumps…if it's leaking, fix it. There are MANY D2 with 150k plus on the clock running strong

A LS ins D2 would be interesting, to say the least
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Old December 6th, 2015, 01:46 PM
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hmmm, what year D2…only issues with them was 03-04 oil pumps…if it's leaking, fix it. There are MANY D2 with 150k plus on the clock running strong

A LS in a D2 would be interesting, to say the least
We have a 2000 D2 with 108K miles and 2003 D2 with 112K miles. For starters:

Front main seal leaks.

Radiator leaks and separated end reservoirs.

Leaking heater cores.

Leaking transfer cases.

Leaking head gaskets.

Leaking steering pumps (yes after meticulous service).

Not to mention failed alternators, steering pumps, crank position sensors, and on and on.

To properly repair and resleeve the engine block is nearly $4,000. You can build a very high spec. LS2 for that or just a bit more.

And these cars positively drink fuel. 15mpg highway on a good day. I have a Z06 Corvette with an LS7 that gets about 28 MPG at the same speed. 150K miles is about mid-service life for a well maintained domestic or Japanese V8, but apparently this mileage is a miracle for a Land Rover. I have a Ram 1500 HEMI with 137,000 miles with nothing more than 5K mile oil changes, filters and one set of spark plugs. It doesn't leak of drop of any kind of fluid. I don't trust the Disco's any more for a road trip and this is litmus test for keeping a car for me and my wife.
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Old December 6th, 2015, 02:01 PM
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We have a 2000 D2 with 108K miles and 2003 D2 with 112K miles. For starters:

Front main seal leaks.

Radiator leaks and separated end reservoirs.

Leaking heater cores.

Leaking transfer cases.

Leaking head gaskets.

Leaking steering pumps (yes after meticulous service).

Not to mention failed alternators, steering pumps, crank position sensors, and on and on.

To properly repair and resleeve the engine block is nearly $4,000. You can build a very high spec. LS2 for that or just a bit more.

And these cars positively drink fuel. 15mpg highway on a good day. I have a Z06 Corvette with an LS7 that gets about 28 MPG at the same speed. 150K miles is about mid-service life for a well maintained domestic or Japanese V8, but apparently this mileage is a miracle for a Land Rover. I have a Ram 1500 HEMI with 137,000 miles with nothing more than 5K mile oil changes, filters and one set of spark plugs. It doesn't leak of drop of any kind of fluid. I don't trust the Disco's any more for a road trip and this is litmus test for keeping a car for me and my wife.
Then ditch the D2's (did you buy them new)…Never has any Land Rover been fuel efficient and if you didn't know that before you bought them, then shame on you. Corvette weights about 2k less than a disco also, seems you got a couple of lemons

I'll stop polluting this thread…sorry
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Old December 9th, 2015, 11:13 AM
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anyone used a defender style air filter box rather than a cone filter? I'd like to run the intake to a snorkel if possible...
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Old December 9th, 2015, 04:58 PM
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I just finished fitting my Sanden pump with Kwik Performance brackets It all works so well there is little reason to try anything else. I have used this pump (NEW Sanden Style HD AG AC Compressor U4712 | eBay) as I liked port positions. The pulley has a couple of extra groves but it seems to work fine...

20151201_173042 by James Elphick, on Flickr
I wonder how hard it would be to make that unit fit in place of the ac compressor on the 4.0
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Old December 9th, 2015, 05:47 PM
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I wonder how hard it would be to make that unit fit in place of the ac compressor on the 4.0

Using the AC compressor as an air pump is on my round to it list. The one I lost.
Thanks for the reminder!
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Old December 10th, 2015, 02:26 PM
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If you figure out to do it with whats already there, I would greatly appreciate the help!
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Old December 10th, 2015, 05:16 PM
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anyone used a defender style air filter box rather than a cone filter? I'd like to run the intake to a snorkel if possible...
Two issues, pipe diameter the ls needs 3 inch for MAF and you wouldn't want to choke it and there is not much space for an air box although I'm sure something would fit
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Old December 10th, 2015, 05:27 PM
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I wonder how hard it would be to make that unit fit in place of the ac compressor on the 4.0
Difficult I would suspect as the mounting holes are affectively 90 degrees different between the stock rover / ls pump and this one. With a bit of hunting though you can find almost any combination of ports you can actually get fittings for, correct pulleys and mounting positions. If using Sanden pumps or equivalents try to get the newer 7 piston visions not the old 5s or so I have read.
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Old December 10th, 2015, 10:32 PM
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Two issues, pipe diameter the ls needs 3 inch for MAF and you wouldn't want to choke it and there is not much space for an air box although I'm sure something would fit
Umm.... 4" off the MAF I believe....

I was looking at one of these for a snorkel setup :

Ump 4 Inch Super Air Filter With 8 Inch Extra Long Canister For Engines That Have 250Hp To 300Hp

Or you could use a truck filter like on Rob's ORA Eurofighter....
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Old December 12th, 2015, 10:54 AM
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I don't think I'm going to use my Defender case with the LS because it's 1.4:1 would a locking case from a Disco 2 work for this conversion? Thanks
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