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Old December 24th, 2014, 08:54 PM
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Thought he said it had new axles on from the UK, TD5 onwards are built universal LHD/RHD
Didn't know TD5 front axles were setup for both. Learn something every day.
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Old December 25th, 2014, 04:31 PM
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Been thinking about exhaust manifolds again... rather like the look of these L99/LS3 headers but as we know the engine needs to move towards the centre of the truck to make them or the standard factory ones fit.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chevy-LS3-L9...22f2fc&vxp=mtr

Liked the looks of these new mounts from Daves Customs and got me thinking about making up a custom set for my truck...

http://shop.davescustomsunlimited.co...ts-p/lsemk.htm

So, question is.... if I leave the trans mounted on the OE mounts, would it matter too much if it all sat a bit off square to the frame with the engine on center ?
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Old December 25th, 2014, 04:39 PM
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LT230 may hit the crossmember on 110. LT230 shifter won't line up with tunnel. Drivelines have to be replaced. Why do you insist on making way more work for yourself? Are you building the Winchester mansion?
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Old December 25th, 2014, 11:53 PM
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LT230 may hit the crossmember on 110. LT230 shifter won't line up with tunnel. Drivelines have to be replaced. Why do you insist on making way more work for yourself? Are you building the Winchester mansion?
Not sure what you mean, all I was thinking about was moving the engine over sideways to use a pair of stock manifolds, just thinking out loud.... Esp if there cheap from the local pick-a-part

Why do I make more work... cause I enjoy the challenge.... if I didn't have the D100, I'd have a custom rock crawler.... Have a great Christmas !
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Old December 26th, 2014, 08:06 AM
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I have a custom rockcrawler. Packaging is sometimes even harder. In fact, on mine, I have a LQ4 with a corvette manifold on one side, and a truck manifold mounted backwards on the other for clearance. The 'y' pipe runs in front of the oil pan.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 10:58 AM
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The Hookers are $300 and maintain original driveline. I think what you might save using OEM manifolds will be lost in the long run.
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Old December 26th, 2014, 11:38 AM
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The Hookers are $300 and maintain original driveline. I think what you might save using OEM manifolds will be lost in the long run.
My drive line is already custom as I've streached the w/b to 100" and am fitting a doubler behind the NV4500....

Either way, all I was saying was would it matter that much if the engine was centred side to side between the frame rails but leaving the t'case on its OEM mounts to use OEM GM manifolds.... You would retain the LR drive shafts.

How about just swapping Nicks engine mounts side/side ?
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Old December 26th, 2014, 12:40 PM
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How much of a side to side change is it to move the motor to cebter? You could do the math, but it would cause the drive flanges to then be some small angle off of parallel to the diffs. Not sure if it would matter at all given that the vertical angles change a bit when driving too.
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Moving over an inch or so doesn't affect driveshafts. Early 4 cylinder drivetrain is an inch left of where the 300tdi drivetrain sits. With no change to the diff position.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 08:04 PM
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The LS sump is close to the front driveline and 3rd member pinion. Moving the engine over may cause them to hit.
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Old December 27th, 2014, 11:15 PM
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The LS sump is close to the front driveline and 3rd member pinion. Moving the engine over may cause them to hit.
Thanks for the heads up, Nick. Once I get my drive line in I'm going to drop my short block in & do a trial fit before finalizing the engine mount install. Will prob end up with the Hookers but am interested to see how centering the engine goes.

BTW, if I move the engine back 1" to accommodate my radiators shroud ,will I run into any problems at the bulkhead ?

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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:47 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, Nick. Once I get my drive line in I'm going to drop my short block in & do a trial fit before finalizing the engine mount install. Will prob end up with the Hookers but am interested to see how centering the engine goes.

BTW, if I move the engine back 1" to accommodate my radiators shroud ,will I run into any problems at the bulkhead ?

Thanks....
Looks like it will fit.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 06:50 PM
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CA Y-pipe

Just left the exhaust shop to approve the layout for the California version of the Y-pipe.
Yes, three cats.
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Looks like it will fit.
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Old December 31st, 2014, 09:51 PM
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Just left the exhaust shop to approve the layout for the California version of the Y-pipe.
Yes, three cats.
Nice tube work, pity about the cats....
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Went back and thumbed through most of this thread. If i missed the answer sorry. Will this conversion work on a 2004 Disco?
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Old January 2nd, 2015, 11:27 AM
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Went back and thumbed through most of this thread. If i missed the answer sorry. Will this conversion work on a 2004 Disco?
Don't have the D2 engine mounts, D2 shifter cable, or GM engine electronics to Bosch interface. So the short answer is not yet.
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Just left the exhaust shop to approve the layout for the California version of the Y-pipe.
Yes, three cats.

That 3rd converter looks awful close to the trans--- it isnt going to cook it?

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Will this conversion work on a 2004 Disco?
Wouldn't that be a game changer. I'd wager that most D90/110's are still running on their original Vee-Eights while many Discovery II's have died due to bad block syndrome.
But since the value just isn't there; would it be worth it?

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Wouldn't that be a game changer. I'd wager that most D90/110's are still running on their original Vee-Eights while many Discovery II's have died due to bad block syndrome.
But since the value just isn't there; would it be worth it?

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I'd do it, and I know many others that would too, but I doubt it'd be as popular with Discos than with Defenders.
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I'd do it, and I know many others that would too, but I doubt it'd be as popular with Discos than with Defenders.
I bet there' a D2 market.
My only experience with a D2 and a 4.6 was my '04 and quite frankly...it was... meh.

A LS V8 would've kicked ass in that truck.

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