GM Gen 4 conversion including LS - Page 107 - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #2121  
Old August 13th, 2017, 08:30 AM
stancey's Avatar
stancey
Status: Offline
steven stancey
1988 Defender 110 LS, 1993 130 tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 480
Help... I've been trying to figure out the wiring on my disco 1 shifter to tie it in with my ls swap. Does anyone have info on which wire goes to what or just a wiring diagram? I can't find anything online except a disco 1 electrical troubleshooting guide. 6 wires total... thanks
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1999978227.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	450.2 KB
ID:	281210  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2122  
Old August 13th, 2017, 09:38 AM
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,115
Looking for the following parts to experiment with. If you have some from your swap that you are not going to use going to and would let go for free / cheap let me know.

Exhaust manifold heat shields from a gen IV truck motor

Lower stock A/C mount and compressor
Reply With Quote
  #2123  
Old August 13th, 2017, 10:29 AM
Factoid's Avatar
Factoid
Status: Offline
Mark
Three criminals seeking revenge
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Antonio, TX/Putnam Valley, NY
Posts: 439
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davis View Post
You should disconnect the battery and the ECU when welding on the truck. This is regardless of which kind of car or truck. I have done it with everything connected and it was fine and I have also seen an ECU brick. Personally I disconnect the ground on the battery and I will unplug the X1 and X2 connectors--but that is just me.
Thanks, Chris, I think that is wise. I once showed the dual MSD boxes in my 911 the mig welder and they both burned up!

Steve, it looks like the neutral safety switch for your shifter is mounted on the LR tranny separate from the shifter. I think your best bet is to "ring" the wires coming out of the shifter. Basically, test continuity of the wires in each position to determine where they are open or connected. Build tables showing "O" or "C" for each shifter position between each wire. Perhaps pick three to start and ring them in each position. Once you know for example that a brown and an orange are only connected in the P and N position, you can then use them as your neutral safety switch. In other words, you're not limited to the factory wiring. Give me a call if you would like to talk this through.
__________________
1976 Series III 109 "Montoya" ("You killed my father, prepare to die")
1988 Defender 90 LHD "Vizzini" (speed demon from Sicily)
1987 Defender 90 MOD LHD "fezzik" (giant rock thrower)
2015 MB CLS63
1975 Porsche 911 hot rod
1964 Porsche (Beck) 904
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2124  
Old August 15th, 2017, 02:56 PM
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,115
Passed Colorado emissions

Epic day...

This morning I went down to the state of Colorado technical emissions center in Highlands Ranch and they inspected the swap and provided me with a piece of paper legitimizing the swap and allowing me to get my emissions test in Colorado.

They looked over the swap, I retained all of the emissions so I had everything they were looking for on my swap.

4 o2 sensors - 2 cats - Fuel tank pressure sensor - Vapor canister - purge valve - vent valve - sealed gas cap - Ability to communicate with ECU through the OBDII port - MIL / Check engine working tested with a snap-on computer, made sure it came on with the key and went off when running.

Evap was the only test not ready but Colorado allows you to have 1 test not ready so I was ok there.

They asked a few questions and I only answered what was asked.

Motor passed the emissions test with flying colors.

So now I have my piece of paper that I show when I need to get an emissions test in the future that says the swap was blessed, my passed emissions test and went to the DMV to get my collector plates and they should arrive in 4 - 6 weeks!

Parts were the standard parts from Nick's BOM + a stock style vent valve, vapor canister.

Rob @ SWR in New Mexico did the swap but I am confident that the emissions stuff could be done to the standard by a home builder as well.
Reply With Quote
  #2125  
Old August 15th, 2017, 03:53 PM
Factoid's Avatar
Factoid
Status: Offline
Mark
Three criminals seeking revenge
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Antonio, TX/Putnam Valley, NY
Posts: 439
Registry
Congratulations, Dave, that's fantastic!
__________________
1976 Series III 109 "Montoya" ("You killed my father, prepare to die")
1988 Defender 90 LHD "Vizzini" (speed demon from Sicily)
1987 Defender 90 MOD LHD "fezzik" (giant rock thrower)
2015 MB CLS63
1975 Porsche 911 hot rod
1964 Porsche (Beck) 904
Reply With Quote
  #2126  
Old August 15th, 2017, 06:19 PM
RoverC
Status: Offline
Cliff
1997 D90 ST
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Seminole, FL
Posts: 482
So I was looking at this and was confused as to what they are saying about the lt230 not clearing for an LS swap...

Replacement Transfer Case | Forbyn Bros.
"The original case is to narrow to accommodate the width of an automatic transmission without drive line interference.

This case was designed to accommodate the 6L80 E automatic transmission. It still fits between the frame rails in stock position while eliminating the front drive line interference issues. This also allows for stock length or near stock length drive lines to be used and maintains proper drive line angles."

Never seen one of these before, are they saying for Series trucks or? Plenty of LS Defenders around, no clearance issues?

Even with the Marks 4x4 kit for the 4l85e the driveshaft clears...

Looks expensive and no idea how that works.
Reply With Quote
  #2127  
Old August 15th, 2017, 07:23 PM
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,115
With Nicks adapter, 6l80e and the stock lt230 everything clears just fine on my 90.
Reply With Quote
  #2128  
Old August 17th, 2017, 07:56 AM
Cliffman
Status: Offline
Dane Walker
1988/ 110
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Midland, Texas, USA
Posts: 26
I am currently in the process of doing the swap on my 1988 Land Rover defender 110 rhd. I have a 5.3 gen 4 with the 6180 tranny. Has any worked on this model year and where there any difficulties with the drive shaft length, transfer case location, and tunnel size? Any other things you might have run into along the way......


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #2129  
Old August 17th, 2017, 08:04 AM
Omero's Avatar
Omero
Status: Offline
Omar Alomar
2000 D110 CSW 6.2 LS (was TD5)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 147
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliffman View Post
I am currently in the process of doing the swap on my 1988 Land Rover defender 110 rhd. I have a 5.3 gen 4 with the 6180 tranny. Has any worked on this model year and where there any difficulties with the drive shaft length, transfer case location, and tunnel size? Any other things you might have run into along the way......


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
What's the original engine?

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
__________________
I'm for the Russian pencil
Reply With Quote
  #2130  
Old August 17th, 2017, 08:06 AM
Cliffman
Status: Offline
Dane Walker
1988/ 110
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Midland, Texas, USA
Posts: 26
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omero View Post
What's the original engine?

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk


3.5 v8


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #2131  
Old August 17th, 2017, 08:10 AM
Omero's Avatar
Omero
Status: Offline
Omar Alomar
2000 D110 CSW 6.2 LS (was TD5)
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 147
Registry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cliffman View Post
3.5 v8


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You'll be fine... Bolt on mounts and all... Reuse your propshafts.

Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
__________________
I'm for the Russian pencil
Reply With Quote
  #2132  
Old August 17th, 2017, 08:20 AM
stancey's Avatar
stancey
Status: Offline
steven stancey
1988 Defender 110 LS, 1993 130 tdi
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: austin, texas
Posts: 480
You might want to change your transfer case to a 1.0 or 1.2. Also, my tunnel rests right on top of my transfer case shifter bolts. I had the lt85. I might trim the seat box flange a bit, but otherwise drops right in...
Reply With Quote
  #2133  
Old August 17th, 2017, 01:25 PM
CJ's FJ's Avatar
CJ's FJ
Status: Offline
CJ
1985 90
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: W. MI
Posts: 112
Registry
I'm getting ready to begin this project and in going over all the details, I'm wondering if it might work just use the GM 208 transfer case (32 spline with a right hand drop). Any thoughts?
Reply With Quote
  #2134  
Old August 17th, 2017, 01:46 PM
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,115
The LT230 is a great transfer case why would you want to go with the GM tcase?

At a min you will need to deal with custom drive lines.

That is one of the great things about Nicks setup the t case and drivelines stay in the stock location.
Reply With Quote
  #2135  
Old August 17th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Ash's Avatar
Ash
Status: Offline
Ash Heller
OM606 110 Frankenstein
D-90 Source Vendor
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Orlando, FL
Posts: 654
NP208 is also a centered rear output so you're going to have some unhappy driveline angles.

-Ash
__________________
Geared Restoration Co.

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

352-572-3236

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
Reply With Quote
  #2136  
Old August 18th, 2017, 02:14 PM
Davis's Avatar
Davis
Status: Offline
Chris Davis
94 D90, 88 RRC
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,399
My LT230 has a straight shift shift. It is going to The knob will interfere with the Lokar shifter when shifter is in the lower gears. Did anyone bend their LT230 lever for clearance reasons? Looks simple, just have to take it all apart...
Reply With Quote
  #2137  
Old August 18th, 2017, 03:08 PM
Factoid's Avatar
Factoid
Status: Offline
Mark
Three criminals seeking revenge
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: San Antonio, TX/Putnam Valley, NY
Posts: 439
Registry
Chris, I adjusted the TC shifter to clear. This picture is TC Low/Locked with the tranny in Low. 12" Lokar.

I was concerned it would hit the seat if I bent it, but of course I'm not installed, yet, so YMMV.


Click image for larger version

Name:	image-1700203994.jpg
Views:	53
Size:	568.1 KB
ID:	283433
__________________
1976 Series III 109 "Montoya" ("You killed my father, prepare to die")
1988 Defender 90 LHD "Vizzini" (speed demon from Sicily)
1987 Defender 90 MOD LHD "fezzik" (giant rock thrower)
2015 MB CLS63
1975 Porsche 911 hot rod
1964 Porsche (Beck) 904
Reply With Quote
  #2138  
Old August 20th, 2017, 10:42 AM
dave_lucas
Status: Offline
Dave Lucas
None
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: CO USA
Posts: 3,115
My plates arrived today so I am 100% legit and on the road here in Colorado.

I thought it was cool that out of all of the random license plates numbers from the pile they sent me one that is appropriate considering where it was imported from.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image-3093716331.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	640.0 KB
ID:	283913  
Reply With Quote
  #2139  
Old August 20th, 2017, 11:16 AM
Davis's Avatar
Davis
Status: Offline
Chris Davis
94 D90, 88 RRC
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,399
for my Ron Davis radiator, the lower return hose is very close to kinking (or is already kinking--just don't know how bad). I assume this much of a indentation isn't good, or is it acceptable? This is the BOM lower rad hose part...


I trimmed it--never mind. I left only an acceptable amount of un-ribbed tubing left...
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2512.jpg
Views:	35
Size:	116.5 KB
ID:	283921   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_2513.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	125.3 KB
ID:	283985  

Reply With Quote
  #2140  
Old August 23rd, 2017, 02:56 PM
nmarkiw's Avatar
nmarkiw
Status: Offline
Nicholas Markiw
1994 NAS D90 LS 5.3L
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 396
Gen 5

I just ordered an L83 engine. Starting on the Gen 5 conversion products.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
conversion

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
110 rear disk brake conversion c2sox Defender Technical Discussions 14 September 23rd, 2016 05:23 PM
Diesel Conversion Kits and Shops ChicagoDon Misc. Chit-Chat 25 July 31st, 2012 11:58 AM
detroit diffs, shafts, AEU2522 conversion SeaRover For Sale - Parts 5 February 27th, 2006 08:34 AM
RHD to LHD conversion Reefminis Defender Technical Discussions 5 May 21st, 2005 04:23 PM
Headlamp conversion rustydefender Defender Technical Discussions 21 February 21st, 2005 08:33 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:47 PM.


Copyright