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Old September 9th, 2011, 11:13 AM
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Galvy frame- Whats it worth

This is my first post. Looking to buy an NAS D90 that has had the frame replaced to a galvanized version. Dont know who did the work.

How much of a premium should I factor in to the price since this is a pretty nice upgrade.

thanks for the help.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 11:15 AM
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+3k-10k or more

The only caveat I have is if it NEEDED a galvy frame and all it got was a galvy frame it might have other issues.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 11:22 AM
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I would take into account the cost of a galvy frame, plus how much it would cost to be shipped to you, plus the time/cost of installing all the parts from the truck onto the new frame.

Depending on how much you value your own time, I'd say Ron's numbers look in the ballpark. I would even say that $3k is a bit low.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 01:45 PM
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Thanks for the information. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this 95 D90. The frame did it for me. It has AC and was converted to Auto.

The frame was replaced by Rovers North in VT. I called Rovers North and they said they have not done service work for 6 years so this was done a while back. They did say a frame today costs $3,290 + $1,000+ shipping and around 40 hours to do the swap.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 03:33 PM
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Thanks for the information. I went ahead and pulled the trigger on this 95 D90. The frame did it for me. It has AC and was converted to Auto.

The frame was replaced by Rovers North in VT. I called Rovers North and they said they have not done service work for 6 years so this was done a while back. They did say a frame today costs $3,290 + $1,000+ shipping and around 40 hours to do the swap.
Someone said 4X4 Center did the frame so I called them to get a quote on what they currently charge to do the frame swap. He said $20,000 because all the springs bushings lines all have to pretty much be replaced because they get damaged in the process.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 04:59 PM
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10k is what just a frame swap should cost on a 90 inclusive of brake lines and fuel lines but no bushings or other work.

20k is really expensive. I am sure you could spend it easily to do more than a frame swap, but just the necessary parts (lines and clips don't survive) and the frame + labor, 10k seems reasonable. figure ~$4500 in parts and ~$5k in labor plus taxes.
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Old September 9th, 2011, 05:04 PM
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If you are going to drive around in MI in the winter a Galvy frame will be a huge advantage. It's a 95 converted to auto? Did they install the proper 97 auto console? Do you have pictures of the interior? Roll bar pads?

What do they want for the truck? $45K? How many miles? A good condition, reasonable miles, 95, should run around $25- $28K. With the frame, maybe $32 - $35K.

The galvy frame is an upgrade, but also, it was a replacement part... Since it needed a frame, there should be a whole lot of other parts that needed to be replaced. Make sure they were. Check the floor boards, door bottoms, bulkhead, shock towers and the undercarriage.

BH, MI is Gross Point?
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Lots of rusty parts bolted onto that frame. You might consider starting to replace bits with galvanized or stainless where appropriate.
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I cant wait to start powdercoating all the rusted parts. I plan on refreshing the entire truck. My goal is to someday replace the engine with a 300tdi.

Looks like the transmission transplant was done correctly. I dont have the truck yet since I just paid for it today. Shipping it here from the East Coast. I do plan on driving it in Michigan winters. That's why I got it. I don't drive my Quattroporte or my 993tt in the winter. I needed to get a winter vehicle.

I got it for under $25,000 with shipping. It has 103,000 miles. Its in average condition but should be a fun project to clean up.
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I cant wait to start powdercoating all the rusted parts. I plan on refreshing the entire truck. My goal is to someday replace the engine with a 300tdi.

Looks like the transmission transplant was done correctly. I dont have the truck yet since I just paid for it today. Shipping it here from the East Coast. I do plan on driving it in Michigan winters. That's why I got it. I don't drive my Quattroporte or my 993tt in the winter. I needed to get a winter vehicle.

I got it for under $25,000 with shipping. It has 103,000 miles. Its in average condition but should be a fun project to clean up.
Congrats, nice looking rig...one of my favorite colors also. Galvy frame assures that this becomes a true investment. Something you can drive and enjoy for years and probably end up in the black when you sell it. How many toys can you say that about? (well, maybe your 993TT depending when you bought it).
Not that you asked, but you should loose the Autozone driving lights under the bumper IMHO. They make it look like a ricer.

Also, I had a 993Targa and would have never sold if it were a TT, the 993 represents the best of both worlds IMO. In fact, I bought mine from the boys at Auto Europe in Birmingham, MI. Sorry, not to get off-topic from Landys...I still get excited about air-cooled P-cars.

Good luck with the new rig
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off topic: my 993tt
LEGIT track toy!
An hommage to "Yellowbird", or to translate for this group, Yellowbird would be like owning an original Camel Trophy 110....if there were only 20 ever made.

Before we get scolded for going off topic, show us some pictures of the good stuff (the underside, crossmembers and mounting points) so we can drool and be jealous.
Does it have galvy shock towers?
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Pay attention to the bulkhead - that's another place that the rust worm attacks.
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That is pure air-cooled love. Love the growl of the 993.
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